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MaxWeiss 12-18-2006 08:26 AM

Is it okay to eat animals???
 
I will always be a member of People who Eat Tasty Animals, but in a PM discussion, the issue was brought up. Assuming that it's not for survival, and that one can be healthy eating other stuff, I cannot defend the fact that I eat meat (and will continue to do so!). Can anybody provide a good reason with it is morally acceptable to eat animals when it is not necessary to survival??? And overpopulation of animals doesn't count, since we breed a lot of them just to eat them.

I think I'm just going to have to admit that I am being selfish when I eat meat and accept that it is wrong.

Magic_Man 12-18-2006 10:14 AM

Re: Is it okay to eat animals???
 
Can you provide a reason why it isn't morally acceptable? My claim is that most animals are not self-aware, and it's ok to eat them if they aren't. Plenty of animals eat meat, although they could survive on plants alone. Are the predators morally reprehensible as well?

~MagicMan

valenzuela 12-18-2006 10:38 AM

Re: Is it okay to eat animals???
 

The utility you gain by eating meat is more than the utility animals gain by the fact ure not eating meat anymore. In other words, the world is a happier place if u eat meat.

JMa 12-18-2006 11:02 AM

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Can you provide a reason why it isn't morally acceptable? My claim is that most animals are not self-aware, and it's ok to eat them if they aren't. Plenty of animals eat meat, although they could survive on plants alone. Are the predators morally reprehensible as well?

~MagicMan

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well, breeding animals is very ineffective. it is a waste of resources. if everybody stopped eating meat we could probably help more starving people

revots33 12-18-2006 11:15 AM

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I think I'm just going to have to admit that I am being selfish when I eat meat and accept that it is wrong.

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I think I am in the same boat as you.

I would likely not eat meat if I had to kill the animals myself. Yet I love a good cheeseburger and can't see myself giving them up. I suck.

Magic_Man 12-18-2006 11:25 AM

Re: Is it okay to eat animals???
 
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well, making ipods is very ineffective. it is a waste of resources. if everybody stopped buying ipods we could probably help more starving people

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Are ipods morally reprehensible? This is a serious question.

~MagicMan

JMa 12-18-2006 11:26 AM

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well, making ipods is very ineffective. it is a waste of resources. if everybody stopped buying ipods we could probably help more starving people

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Are ipods morally reprehensible? This is a serious question.

~MagicMan

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joke post, no?

Magic_Man 12-18-2006 11:29 AM

Re: Is it okay to eat animals???
 
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I think I'm just going to have to admit that I am being selfish when I eat meat and accept that it is wrong.

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I think I am in the same boat as you.

I would likely not eat meat if I had to kill the animals myself. Yet I love a good cheeseburger and can't see myself giving them up. I suck.

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Whenever my fiancee sees chickens or other tasty animals on TV or farms and cringes at the thought of eating them, I comment on how delicious they must be. Likewise with the live lobsters in the tanks at seafood restaurants. She feels really uneasy about seeing the live animals, even though she loves meat. I would absolutely kill a chicken for dinner if I lived on a farm. IMO, those who wouldn't do it are in denial about meat. When you cook up that delicious spaghetti and meat sauce tonight, you have to realize that a cow died for it. I'm ok with that though. It seems to me like just another part of nature.

~MagicMan

Magic_Man 12-18-2006 11:32 AM

Re: Is it okay to eat animals???
 
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well, making ipods is very ineffective. it is a waste of resources. if everybody stopped buying ipods we could probably help more starving people

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Are ipods morally reprehensible? This is a serious question.

~MagicMan

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joke post, no?

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I'm intentionally being sensational (for humour and shock value), but my point is very serious. The fact that a process is inefficient or wastes resources doesn't seem sufficient to deem it immoral. Otherwise we'd have to condemn a lot of other stuff as well.

~MagicMan

Utah 12-18-2006 11:33 AM

Re: Is it okay to eat animals???
 
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I will always be a member of People who Eat Tasty Animals, but in a PM discussion, the issue was brought up. Assuming that it's not for survival, and that one can be healthy eating other stuff, I cannot defend the fact that I eat meat (and will continue to do so!). Can anybody provide a good reason with it is morally acceptable to eat animals when it is not necessary to survival??? And overpopulation of animals doesn't count, since we breed a lot of them just to eat them.

I think I'm just going to have to admit that I am being selfish when I eat meat and accept that it is wrong.

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I think it is easiest to wash away the dilemma if you simply realize that the notion of morality is as silly as religon.

However, I must admit, I think is is highly immoral to serve a fine steak past medium rare [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


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