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Old 12-18-2006, 01:02 PM
Strickly Bidness Strickly Bidness is offline
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put it all in the middle. Dude, you've got 1/2 your stack in there by the river. It would be a more complex question if you had more chips behind on the end, but u dont.
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Old 12-18-2006, 01:16 PM
Erdricks Sword Erdricks Sword is offline
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The part that makes it difficult to answer is the fact that you limped. Limping is cool once in a while, but it puts you in a tough spot with a tricky board. When I decide to limp AA or KK I have it in my mind that I am capable of folding if I believe that I am beat. Nothing makes me more mad than limping KK and then going broke when my opp. nails two pair on a J,6,7 flop. You don't have many chips left which makes this hand tougher to call. Personally, I call and then yell at myself if I lose here.
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Old 12-19-2006, 09:10 AM
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Yeh limping with KK/AA is something I only rarely do and I did it here cos he was folding to almost every pre-flop raise i was making and i wanted to try get some action.
I wish I had listened to that ESP part of my brain that was telling me he had a 7 here. I very nearly folded but just couldn't. He had it.
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Old 12-22-2006, 04:18 PM
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You have to call. The betting from the onset was where you made your errors. Limp preflop did not define your hand. The post flop bet should have been pot size on a coordinated board. Turn bet was okay, but I would have pushed at this point. No choice but to call. Limping pre-flop with a big hand is, in most cases, terrible. You are letting your opponent in with any hand, which you cannot put him on. He could flop 2 pair with Q5o, and how would you play AA?

If you limp with monsters, and the board looks dangerous, you need to be able to get away from it.
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Old 12-22-2006, 05:06 PM
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You have to call. The betting from the onset was where you made your errors. Limp preflop did not define your hand. The post flop bet should have been pot size on a coordinated board. Turn bet was okay, but I would have pushed at this point. No choice but to call. Limping pre-flop with a big hand is, in most cases, terrible. You are letting your opponent in with any hand, which you cannot put him on. He could flop 2 pair with Q5o, and how would you play AA?

If you limp with monsters, and the board looks dangerous, you need to be able to get away from it.

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I disagree that limping preflop is bad but I think you must POT the flop once you do so you can push the turn as BDub recommends.
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Old 12-22-2006, 06:52 PM
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Cwar do you diagree that limping big hands in most cases is a bad play? Could you give a motivation of why you don't think so?

Thanks!
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Old 12-22-2006, 07:48 PM
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Mixing up your play sometimes is OK and in this case your opponent is fairly tight preflop and seems loose post flop (like most villains at this level) limping AA and KK some of the time is definitely a good play. If every time you limp you have a hand not worth raising then your game is very easy to exploit. Dont always limp AA or KK just do it sometimes this is a nice spot IMO.
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