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Old 02-05-2006, 10:02 PM
stragf stragf is offline
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Default Wheel\'s falling off!

I'm leaving in 3 weeks for the WSOP in Europe. I qualified online.
I am feeling like a fish out of water. I've been playing lots of online tourneys, anywhere for $1 MTT to $20 MTT for practice. My god, I am feeling like I've never played before. No rhythm,flow, nothing.

I'm making bad bets in bad positions, and not having confidence in position.
OK Thanks for letting me rant. Please comment on the following 3 hands. I think observation on these might help to tune me up.

Hand 1.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (10 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP2 (t930)
MP3 (t1255)
CO (t875)
Button (t860)
SB (t1830)
Hero (t1000)
UTG (t915)
UTG+1 (t2475)
UTG+2 (t925)
MP1 (t965)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t20, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>, UTG+1 calls t80, SB calls t80.

Flop: (t300) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t300</font>, UTG+1 folds, SB calls t300.

Turn: (t900) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero?

Hand 2

Hand Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG+1 (t1675)
MP1 (t3153)
MP2 (t1197)
MP3 (t1110)
CO (t2700)
Hero (t1945)
SB (t1745)
BB (t2265)
UTG (t1350)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, CO calls t50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t50.

Flop: (t275) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets t95</font>.

Hero?

Hand 3

#Game No : 3502122605
***** Hand History for Game 3502122605 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:19900018 Level:1 Blinds (10/15) - Sunday, February 05, 20:46:26 ET 2006
Table Multi Table(588981) Table #82 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: BM175 ( $1345 )
Seat 2: Mr_T ( $975 )
Seat 3: jay_bellagio ( $975 )
Seat 4: ndolanosu ( $895 )
Seat 5: brawler555 ( $1125 )
Seat 6: nis1965 ( $1070 )
Seat 7: Rview487 ( $985 )
Seat 8: wonderblazer ( $835 )
Seat 9: hoppy125 ( $770 )
Seat 10: mushmouth11 ( $985 )
Trny:19900018 Level:1
Blinds (10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Rview487 [ Jc Kc ]
wonderblazer folds.
hoppy125 calls [15].
mushmouth11 folds.
BM175 calls [15].
Mr_T folds.
jay_bellagio folds.
ndolanosu folds.
brawler555 calls [15].
nis1965 calls [5].
Rview487 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts, 9s, 8c ]
nis1965 checks.
Rview487 checks.
hoppy125 folds.
BM175 bets [15].
brawler555 folds.
nis1965 calls [15].
Rview487 calls [15].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7h ]
nis1965 checks.
Rview487 bets [200].
BM175 raises [400].

Hero?

One more?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (10 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG+1 (t1055)
UTG+2 (t460)
MP1 (t1142)
MP2 (t1980)
MP3 (t1470)
Hero (t2170)
Button (t2648)
SB (t965)
BB (t2240)
UTG (t725)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises to t50</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t30.

Flop: (t210) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t35</font>, UTG+2 calls t35, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t150</font>, Hero calls t150, BB calls t115, UTG+2 calls t115.

Turn: (t810) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, MP2 calls t260.

Hero?
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Old 02-05-2006, 10:11 PM
runout_mick runout_mick is offline
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Default Re: Wheel\'s falling off!

Never never everneverever minraise after limpers.
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Old 02-05-2006, 10:16 PM
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Default Re: Wheel\'s falling off!

On the sevens??
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Old 02-05-2006, 10:42 PM
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Default Re: Wheel\'s falling off!

[ QUOTE ]
Hand 1

Turn: (t900) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero?

[/ QUOTE ]

It shouldn't be on Hero to act if the SB called. If SB checks, check behind.

[ QUOTE ]

Hand 2

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, CO calls t50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t50.

[/ QUOTE ]

Either limp behind or make a raise bigger than that. As played, fold the flop.

[ QUOTE ]

Hand 3

** Dealing Turn ** [ 7h ]
nis1965 checks.
Rview487 bets [200].
BM175 raises [400].

[/ QUOTE ]

Push; you're freerolling against another Jack. It's unlikely that he has QJ, and even if he does you have 3 outs.

[ QUOTE ]
One more?

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises to t50</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t30.

Flop: (t210) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t35</font>, UTG+2 calls t35, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t150</font>, Hero calls t150, BB calls t115, UTG+2 calls t115.

Turn: (t810) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, MP2 calls t260.

[/ QUOTE ]

Fold preflop, fold flop, fold turn.
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Old 02-06-2006, 01:17 AM
yabastid yabastid is offline
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Default Re: Wheel\'s falling off!

Hand 1: I'm just checking PF OOP with KQ at level 1. So you miss the flop-why bet the pot? Just bet 1/2 here and if you get called and get no help on turn shut down. This hand plays much easier when you don't raise.

Hand 2: Miniraising is sooooooooo awful here. Who is going to fold? Make it 200 or just limp. Fold flop.

Hand 3: You hit your straight and so has someone else the only question is if he has QJ. I don't think it's often enough that pushing is bad- you probably have a freeroll.

Hand 4: fold PF! Don't play these sucker hands to raises. Then, why are you calling a raise on the flop with bottom pair and a straight sitting right there. Man, you are done with this hand when that flop comes. Don't even think about chasing a 10 to split the pot you will lose a lot of chips. Definitely -EV.

So don't call raises/play marginal hands OOP.
Don't miniraise.
Practice reading the texture of the flop and think about how it could have helped your opponents.
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Old 02-06-2006, 11:30 AM
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Default Re: Wheel\'s falling off!

Good advice. Thanks!
Hand 1 raise was a straight steal attempt without any strength being shown on the initial betting, and a somewhat rag flop.
Hand 2, I don't know why I min raised. Bad move. What size bet would you have suggested? T250?
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Old 02-06-2006, 11:55 AM
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Default Re: Wheel\'s falling off!

[ QUOTE ]
Good advice. Thanks!
Hand 1 raise was a straight steal attempt without any strength being shown on the initial betting, and a somewhat rag flop.
Hand 2, I don't know why I min raised. Bad move. What size bet would you have suggested? T250?

[/ QUOTE ]

hand 1. i don't think this is the best place for a steal. even if you want to try, 1/2 the pot is all you want to put in.

hand 2. just call. fold after the flop.
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Old 02-06-2006, 11:57 AM
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Default Re: Wheel\'s falling off!

In hand 1 I hate the PF raise. I take the free card on the turn. I can see villain having a set here.

What's with the miniraise in hand 2? Make it around 200 here. Or call. I trihnk u have to fold the flop.. you're almost always beat here.


hadn 4. Once again i hate the PF raise here.. limp and see a flop if u like. I also hate the call on the flop.. raise the BB and then fold to any agression behind u.
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