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Old 02-05-2006, 05:02 PM
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I see no point in raising here-the only thing it might accomplish is getting AQ to stack off but this is unlikely enough given the preflop action (your opponent would have to be quite stupid). All raising would accomplish is giving your opponent a better chance to play his hand correctly. I am not at all opposed to just calling the turn and river if he keeps making small bets.
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Old 02-05-2006, 05:06 PM
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I'd call the flop and see what happens but I'm not thrilled at this point.

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Old 02-05-2006, 05:09 PM
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Against an unknown, easy call preflop and flop. I would tread lightly though, and fold to heavy betting down the line.
Bottom line is his bet on the flop is laying you better than 3-1 odds, you better be pretty damn sure you're beat to lay this one down. I think villain could be holding AQ suited/AJ suited here more often than you think.
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Old 02-05-2006, 05:21 PM
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I see no point in raising here-the only thing it might accomplish is getting AQ to stack off but this is unlikely enough given the preflop action (your opponent would have to be quite stupid). All raising would accomplish is giving your opponent a better chance to play his hand correctly. I am not at all opposed to just calling the turn and river if he keeps making small bets.

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Small bets (1/3 pot) on turn and river put you all in.
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Old 02-05-2006, 05:23 PM
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Thanks for the responses everyone, although everyone disagrees with one another it seems.

Coltrane - How's it going? It was Saturday night before the Super Bowl which is why it was running. The 10/25 runs maybe a little less then once a week on average in the last month. When it goes, it is usually good with all the regular doctor guys from 5/10 throwing away money. People like Amir Nassiri have made a lot of people money. Although he may be 86'ed now. Last night, it was good on and off, but the Bellagio game was 10x better last night. Usually they are comparable.
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Old 02-05-2006, 05:28 PM
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Yeti - What then on the turn?

lapoker - What's the reasoning behind not liking a re-raise here to isolate the weak player?

To everyone who says raise, I agree with Diablo on this one. Look at the pre-flop action.

I also don't think I am putting him on as wide a range of hands as most people are. I am giving him 7 different possibilities at most, with it being much more likely he has one of the stronger ones. AA, KK, QQ (even this seems like an odd re-raise OOP), JJ ("), TT ("), AK ("), and Bluff. I thought there was a very high probability he had one of the first three over the last four, but could not be certain. He was too new to the table.

Useless fact: I don't want to be results oriented, but it would of been ugly had I just called pre-flop [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 02-05-2006, 05:56 PM
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lapoker - What's the reasoning behind not liking a re-raise here to isolate the weak player?


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a couple of things.

first, i would like it a lot more if he had limped in ep and you had reraised in co or button. with so many people left to act behind me (in a full game) i am generally a little more careful.
second, your read on him seems vague at best, and i tend to give utg raisers a little respect unless they are known morons.

there are times for it, sure, i just didn't want you to get the impression it was standard as no one had mentioned it before me.
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Old 02-05-2006, 06:00 PM
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Yeti - What then on the turn?

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It depends. Like Diablo says, you watch him and try and pick up something. I wouldn't be surprised to see him check the turn regardless of what he has, which is gonna make your job pretty easy.
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Old 02-05-2006, 06:06 PM
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Yeti - What then on the turn?

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It depends. Like Diablo says, you watch him and try and pick up something. I wouldn't be surprised to see him check the turn regardless of what he has, which is gonna make your job pretty easy.

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Interesting point, and if it is true, then calling the $400 is probably the right play on the flop.
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Old 02-06-2006, 04:18 AM
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I'd call the flop and see what happens but I'm not thrilled at this point.

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Considering Villain's flop bet (400 into a 935 pot) I think this line makes the most sense. Clearly you are ahead against some portion of his range of his hands, and the price is relatively cheap, and you have position and can re-evaluate on the turn.

If he has QQ and you make a boat surely you get his stack, so I don't think calling the flop (as opposed to folding) can be all that wrong. I agree raising seems like a mistake, for the simple fact that you all worse hands fold and no better ones do.
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