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Old 10-05-2006, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: Hank Azaria laying down KK.....should I be impressed?

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He had correct odds to call even if he knew for sure that his opponent had aces, so it was an awful fold.

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This was not a cash game, it was the main event. He loses, he has to wait another year. Pot odds aren't everything.

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The main event is just another poker tournament. Folding here is absolutely idiotic.
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Old 10-05-2006, 09:12 PM
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i don't play many tournaments but i do know that a fundemental theory of tournament poker is that it is often times correct to pass on a marginal situation if it will prevent you from taking advantage of a much larger edge later on.

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we pretty much debunked that one a couple years ago
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Old 10-05-2006, 09:38 PM
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Default Re: Hank Azaria laying down KK.....should I be impressed?

lol @ folding KK getting >4:1.
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:00 PM
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Default Re: Hank Azaria laying down KK.....should I be impressed?

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He had correct odds to call even if he knew for sure that his opponent had aces, so it was an awful fold.

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This was not a cash game, it was the main event. He loses, he has to wait another year. Pot odds aren't everything.

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The main event is just another poker tournament. Folding here is absolutely idiotic.

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That's quite a statement. So, if you were at the WSOP ME and the first hand came and you got KK and your opponent went AI and showed you his AA you would call? Because it's only another tournament, right? Except for the fact that it pays 12 million to the winner and quite a bit of money all the way down the line. But you would always call with your KK against a known AA?
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:01 PM
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Default Re: Hank Azaria laying down KK.....should I be impressed?

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He had correct odds to call even if he knew for sure that his opponent had aces, so it was an awful fold.

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This was not a cash game, it was the main event. He loses, he has to wait another year. Pot odds aren't everything.

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I'm guessing you don't play too many tournaments
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:05 PM
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He had correct odds to call even if he knew for sure that his opponent had aces, so it was an awful fold.

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This was not a cash game, it was the main event. He loses, he has to wait another year. Pot odds aren't everything.

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The main event is just another poker tournament. Folding here is absolutely idiotic.

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That's quite a statement. So, if you were at the WSOP ME and the first hand came and you got KK and your opponent went AI and showed you his AA you would call? Because it's only another tournament, right? Except for the fact that it pays 12 million to the winner and quite a bit of money all the way down the line. But you would always call with your KK against a known AA?

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You know what's great? When people take someone's statement completely out of context and twist it in such a way as to make it obviously incorrect and then throw it back in their face. I totally dig when people troll with retarded [censored] like this.
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:44 PM
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Default Re: Hank Azaria laying down KK.....should I be impressed?

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He had correct odds to call even if he knew for sure that his opponent had aces, so it was an awful fold.

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This was not a cash game, it was the main event. He loses, he has to wait another year. Pot odds aren't everything.

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The main event is just another poker tournament. Folding here is absolutely idiotic.

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That's quite a statement. So, if you were at the WSOP ME and the first hand came and you got KK and your opponent went AI and showed you his AA you would call? Because it's only another tournament, right? Except for the fact that it pays 12 million to the winner and quite a bit of money all the way down the line. But you would always call with your KK against a known AA?

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You know what's great? When people take someone's statement completely out of context and twist it in such a way as to make it obviously incorrect and then throw it back in their face. I totally dig when people troll with retarded [censored] like this.

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Ok. What did you mean then? The post you were replying to said he knew his opp had AA. It was very early at the ME. Please explain.
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:48 PM
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Default Re: Hank Azaria laying down KK.....should I be impressed?

Probably because on the first hand of the Main Event you aren't getting >4:1 pot odds to call. Unlike in the hand where Hank layed down Kings, when he had those pot odds.
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Old 10-05-2006, 11:00 PM
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Probably because on the first hand of the Main Event you aren't getting >4:1 pot odds to call. Unlike in the hand where Hank layed down Kings, when he had those pot odds.

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Was he really getting those odds? I don't recall ESPN showing the stacks and bets since they weren't at the TV table.
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Old 10-06-2006, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: Hank Azaria laying down KK.....should I be impressed?

i specifically remember reading cardplayer's update on the hand and that there were a few posts on here that added up the raises/reraises/stack sizes, etc. and showed he was definitely getting better than 4:1.
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