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Old 07-29-2006, 10:52 PM
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Also, it hurts rocks way more than loose players to switch tables since image built up goes back to scratch at the new table (if you aren't known from TV)


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The exact opposite is generally correct.
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Old 07-29-2006, 10:54 PM
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Also, it hurts rocks way more than loose players to switch tables since image built up goes back to scratch at the new table (if you aren't known from TV)


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The exact opposite is generally correct.

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yea, you have to build a loose image, tight is the default.
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Old 07-29-2006, 11:04 PM
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I take it David had a dead table on day one.

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Old 07-29-2006, 11:29 PM
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[/ QUOTE ]The exact opposite is generally correct.

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So when a new player come to your table and sit down how many hands does it usually need played before you establish him/her as tight or loose?
It takes way more hands to figure out someone is tight doesn't it?
(The average MTT player - not a seasoned tourney pro and not a shortstack)
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Old 07-29-2006, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: An Unfortunate Asymmetry

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[/ QUOTE ]The exact opposite is generally correct.

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So when a new player come to your table and sit down how many hands does it usually need played before you establish him/her as tight or loose?
It takes way more hands to figure out someone is tight doesn't it?
(The average MTT player - not a seasoned tourney pro and not a shortstack)

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I think the idea is that its not good if people know you are tight- since you get less action.
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Old 07-29-2006, 11:50 PM
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It's always good for you when people don't know how you play, whether you be loose or tight.

However, loose players are generally giving up some value making some slightly -EV plays in order to establish an image so they can put the table on tilt & get paid off later. When they get moved, they lose all that value they've paid for. Rocks, OTOH can benefit from being unknown if they move to a table and happen to pick up a big hand before their nitty image is established. It's very rare/stupid for a rock to intentionally make a -EV play to advertise just how tight they are and set their opponent up for future bluffs.

p.s. this is getting off topic.
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Old 07-30-2006, 12:10 AM
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[/ QUOTE ]I think the idea is that its not good if people know you are tight- since you get less action.

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Yeppers, and my point was that you like to capitalize on that image, hence it hurts you to switch tables because it takes way longer to convince a new table of your tightness than a loose player who sit down and raise it up 3 times in a round and then got his image established.

But I guess factors such as live/online, buyin, tourney structure etc decides a lot.

And with the LAG hype as of late maybe you can even say that is what's default now.
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Old 07-30-2006, 02:50 AM
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Hi, I believe I am necessary in this thread.
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Old 07-30-2006, 03:35 AM
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Well, the problem is that this is the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP of poker, therefore only the best players in the world are competing, so it's hard to get chips easy.






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Old 07-30-2006, 11:09 AM
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You forgot to throw a JPEG of an hourglass in there, UATrewqaz.
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