If only they were aces...

[The Real DeCoy]

You're tied for the big stack at the table, you have an M of 22 or so, and you have plenty of opportunity to bully some in the next ring or two. TT is not a superstrong hand and its likely that you're getting into a coinflip at best. Sure SB could be flat making a play on the button, but if hes not your stack is busted down to and M of 10. Why take this risk here?

I agree that you are likely ahead, but if not you find out the hard way.

[DireWolf]

i push here quickly

[geestyle]

$1000 - LMAO, I only play 2-3 sessions a week as I'm in the UK and work for a living so can only play serious at weekends due to time differences (and if the good lady of the house doesn't want to go cushion shopping or something [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]!).

Tried to keep original post short as didn't want to write an epic. I presumed you'd know the reasonong behind it - that is, chasing 10's with 2 big raises before.

[DontPanic87]

This is a really tough situation, as its difficult to put the sb on a range here. Without any reads (and without the knowledge of whether or not sb is capable of a resteal), its really pretty difficult to put sb on a range here.

I think its probably safe to say that bb folds here the vast majority of the time if you call, and if thats the case I think I make the crying call hoping that sb is pushing with A-x or you're at least in a coinflip situation with the pot overlay.

The only problem here is that sb could easily make the same move with JJ-AA.

I could easily be wrong here, help me out if I am.

[stevepa]

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If i push, i'm assuming the button folds. That way its HU, and depends on what range we give the SB if thats a good play. In the actual hand i folded, thinking the same as you actually - i figured its probably a coinflip with some overlay, so folded to protect the chipstack. After running TT vs some possible SB ranges, i think its a repush here.

I play on pokerstars - if you want, feel free to deposit some money, and we'll put a sidebet on how much we make playing mtts over feb?

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just an FYI, but i ran pokerstove on the ranges you mentioned, BUT i left the button in also as a random hand (his range may be better than random or not). So against the range for SB you listed and a random hand, the TT is 41%.

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41% getting better than 2:1 on your money = easy push.

Gee, show me some ranges of hands where a fold is correct. Or at least show me some ranges where folding is only a slight error and give me a good reason why I should pass up this edge. (And no, "he might have me dominated" is not a good reason to pass up an edge.)

Steve

[rockin]

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He folds the random hand though, its not still there. What range do we give him for calling after it goes push/repush, probably QQ+, AK? Thats very rarely, so i just assumed he folded to make the calculation easier,thats fine right?

If we give him A8+, KQ, 22+ im 60%, if we give him AT+, KQ+, 88 its a coinflip. I think its possible his range could be even greater than that, but for a random sb, im not too sure how wide i would make it.

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this is true, that the random hand most likely folds. BUT, how do we know the random hand isn't the SB who just pushed on a resteal, and the range you gave for SB earlier is actually buttons range now with the original raise. Just food for thought. We would still be 41%.

I tend to try to avoid circumstances where someone is screaming I have a monster and my gut is saying "you lying bastich" and i instapush and regret it as i start up the next tourny.

[stevepa]

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this is true, that the random hand most likely folds. BUT, how do we know the random hand isn't the SB who just pushed on a resteal, and the range you gave for SB earlier is actually buttons range now with the original raise. Just food for thought. We would still be 41%.

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You keep saying, we would be 41% like it's a bad thing. If we're 41% to win, getting better than 2:1 odds, that is very good.

Steve

[rockin]

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this is true, that the random hand most likely folds. BUT, how do we know the random hand isn't the SB who just pushed on a resteal, and the range you gave for SB earlier is actually buttons range now with the original raise. Just food for thought. We would still be 41%.

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You keep saying, we would be 41% like it's a bad thing. If we're 41% to win, getting better than 2:1 odds, that is very good.

Steve

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no this was just an FYI, this would give us the proper odds to call. i was simply pointing out the odds.

[stevepa]

Fair enough. I must have misinterpreted the tone of your posts.

Steve

[CardSharpCook]

Hand 1: 55.7446 % 54.78% 00.96% { 99+, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 2: 44.2554 % 43.30% 00.96% { TT }

I think is range is wider than this, but if this is his range, it is a call.