If only they were aces...

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Oh come one, lets have some real discussion here. Thats just so weak minded its painful to read. You really assume a monster from a button raise and SB shove? I hope your sitting in the BB everytime i push 78h vs an aggro button.

If we ignore the button for now, as i think if we push, he folds most of the time anyway - we need to put sb on a pretty tight range to make this a fold. AT+, 88+, KQ is basically a coinflip, and with an overlay thats good yes?

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Weak? Thats one valid opinion. I am not assuming a monster - I'm obviously more conservative than u here. Put simply -I don't like chasing with 10's. If I open I push, facing one raiser I push. 2 raises to me generally spells trouble hence the fold.

I look forward to meeting you on the tables and whpping your ass - where do you play?

[rockin]

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Oh come one, lets have some real discussion here. Thats just so weak minded its painful to read. You really assume a monster from a button raise and SB shove? I hope your sitting in the BB everytime i push 78h vs an aggro button.

If we ignore the button for now, as i think if we push, he folds most of the time anyway - we need to put sb on a pretty tight range to make this a fold. AT+, 88+, KQ is basically a coinflip, and with an overlay thats good yes?

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Weak? Thats one valid opinion. I am not assuming a monster - I'm obviously more conservative than u here. Put simply -I don't like chasing with 10's. If I open I push, facing one raiser I push. 2 raises to me generally spells trouble hence the fold.

I look forward to meeting you on the tables and whpping your ass - where do you play?

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uh oh. this is starting to get good.

do i hear challenge?

[TwistedEcho]

If i push, i'm assuming the button folds. That way its HU, and depends on what range we give the SB if thats a good play. In the actual hand i folded, thinking the same as you actually - i figured its probably a coinflip with some overlay, so folded to protect the chipstack. After running TT vs some possible SB ranges, i think its a repush here.

I play on pokerstars - if you want, feel free to deposit some money, and we'll put a sidebet on how much we make playing mtts over feb?

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I play on pokerstars - if you want, feel free to deposit some money, and we'll put a sidebet on how much we make playing mtts over feb?

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Hustler hard at work...

[TwistedEcho]

Until last night i had a negative roi for this month - i think the smart money is on him [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I'll take side action on TwistedEcho here. Anyone want to give action in favor of gee?


[crickets chirping]

Anyone?

[tumbleweeds go by....]

Anyone?

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If i push, i'm assuming the button folds. That way its HU, and depends on what range we give the SB if thats a good play. In the actual hand i folded, thinking the same as you actually - i figured its probably a coinflip with some overlay, so folded to protect the chipstack. After running TT vs some possible SB ranges, i think its a repush here.

I play on pokerstars - if you want, feel free to deposit some money, and we'll put a sidebet on how much we make playing mtts over feb?

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just an FYI, but i ran pokerstove on the ranges you mentioned, BUT i left the button in also as a random hand (his range may be better than random or not). So against the range for SB you listed and a random hand, the TT is 41%.

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If i push, i'm assuming the button folds. That way its HU, and depends on what range we give the SB if thats a good play. In the actual hand i folded, thinking the same as you actually - i figured its probably a coinflip with some overlay, so folded to protect the chipstack. After running TT vs some possible SB ranges, i think its a repush here.

I play on pokerstars - if you want, feel free to deposit some money, and we'll put a sidebet on how much we make playing mtts over feb?

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LOL - so you actually agreed with my analysis! Fair play on admitting it. What limits and size of tourney do you play? I float about in the big tourneys up to $50 and sit n go's up to $200 mainly on party but I've just recentlty started playing on stars, so if our buy-ins are similar I might be tempted to have a little side bet?? What amount you thinkin?

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He folds the random hand though, its not still there. What range do we give him for calling after it goes push/repush, probably QQ+, AK? Thats very rarely, so i just assumed he folded to make the calculation easier,thats fine right?

If we give him A8+, KQ, 22+ im 60%, if we give him AT+, KQ+, 88 its a coinflip. I think its possible his range could be even greater than that, but for a random sb, im not too sure how wide i would make it.

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LOL - so you actually agreed with my analysis! Fair play on admitting it. What limits and size of tourney do you play? I float about in the big tourneys up to $50 and sit n go's up to $200 mainly on party but I've just recentlty started playing on stars, so if our buy-ins are similar I might be tempted to have a little side bet?? What amount you thinkin?

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If you had posted the reasons behind folding the first time, i wouldn't have commented about it, but just because it goes raise, reraise is no reason to fold - was hoping to get more discussion than that [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I play pretty similar stakes, sidebet can be discussed, i was thinking around $1000 or so? Otherwise its not worth it and less interesting.