22r - QQ with A-high flop

[Jay Riall]

PartyPoker $22 Regular Tournament, Big Blind is t40 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t2000)
UTG+1 (t2000)
MP1 (t2000)
MP2 (t1960)
MP3 (t2000)
CO (t1980)
Button (t2040)
SB (t2000)
BB (t4020)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Hero raises to t120</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, BB calls t80

Flop: (t260) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t260) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">BB bets t225</font>, Hero calls t225

River: (t710) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">BB bets t475</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>

Anyone bet this flop?

[Dan.]

I c-bet the flop, then shut down if called.

[Secret Squirrel]

I bet slightly over half the pot here. Curtains wrote an article on c-betting regarding this and stated that it was a good move to c-bet when an ace flops as villain expects you to have an ace in this spot. This would be a better time to spend your chips rather than calling the turn.

[Jay Riall]

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I bet slightly over half the pot here. Curtains wrote an article on c-betting regarding this and stated that it was a good move to c-bet when an ace flops as villain expects you to have an ace in this spot. This would be a better time to spend your chips rather than calling the turn.

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Lol i referanced that thread soo many times this week in different threads. Maybe I should actually pay attention to it myself [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Edit: I reread it and theres nothing about betting with medium-big pairs when an ace flops.

[bluefeet]

Trust me, I'm a HUGE fan of the 3x.

But in THIS early of a position, at a full table, 'protection' begins to take on as much importance as 'value'. I'd raise a touch more PF. A quick call from directly behind can turn this into an OOP/3-4way pretty quick.

The chips you spent on the Turn are FAR better spent on the flop, finding yourself HU - especially from the guy most likely to see a flop. You rep'd strength PF, no reason to not continue.

[Jay Riall]

How often do you c-bet OOP with QQ/JJ if an ace flops with 1 pf caller?

[bluefeet]

OOP, 1 caller? A lot [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Assuming 1st hand (no read/deep stacks), the Ace alone isn't going to slow me down too often. If the texture of the board gives him additional reasons for calling, then perhaps not as often.

If you're asking specifically about this hand -- the call coming from MP/LP say...I'd continue on THIS flop every time (made easier by the smaller raise, which is contradictive to my previous advice I know [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img])