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Old 05-15-2007, 10:01 AM
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Default Re: $200r, flop hits me hard

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but i think that's overkill, we can get more value out of the hand than what's in the pot now

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How do we get more value? Are we really expecting to get flat-called? What flat calls a bet from the pfr into this board? Does that flat-calling range give up on any turn, or just the turns that pull ahead or complete their stronger draw?

I can't see why 3-betting or CR-ing gives us more value than shoving here, if we never get any folds and we're only folding after bricking two more streets.

I also think that 2+2 suffers in general from an aversion to non-standard lines. I feel that 'standard' is good in standard MTTs where our opponents will simply be bad. Standard>wrong. However, in this thing, with a bunch of regs who can read hands well and know what standard means, non-standard might/can be better. If hero shoves here, he'll get calls from hands that wouldn't call with the cards face up and folds from hands that would/should.
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