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Old 09-25-2006, 03:15 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: WCOOP $1050 NL. QQ in MP

CDC,

This stuff only works if you're me. Also, for future reference, you should throw in a 'lol donkaments' somewhere in there.

Everyone who is not CDC,

Read all of his posts ITT because right now, this thread sucks.

Frank Zappy,

You in particular have said three different things in this thread that all contradict each other and the thought process you should have. Pay attention to CDC, for he is good at poker and absolutely right.

OP,

CDC is right in that the raise size isn't high enough to just call PF, but OK, you called. This means that when you flop an overpair on a decent looking board you are going broke, so now, you go broke. This does *not* mean that you call this bet and invite him to turn an ace or check/fold JJ when a ten hits.

So what do you raise to? You can shove, maybe even should against many/most people, but it's an overbet. If you overbet a lot, that's OK, go ahead and shove. If you don't, this is a rare situation where you can consider a minraise or a near minraise (a raise to 12K with 9K back is scarier than a shove, IMO, therefore you should never do this). Of course you call a push, and of course you are committed if he just calls on any turn/river cards. If you raise to about 9-10K he is not even getting implied odds to call with AK and will probably fold regardless, so it's fine.

All,

Answers like "reraise to put some pressure on him" or something about ninjas are how it's really easy to spot inexperienced posters, because they come straight out of books and don't make any sense given the exact situation roughly 97% of the time. How are you going to "put some pressure on him" when he has a)missed the flop or b)has an overpair? Think about this one for a while...why would you even want to do that given either of those things?
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