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Old 03-24-2006, 07:52 AM
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Default Re: Stat Check $5/10 only 1,119 hands though (3/20-3/23)

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So we agree that whenever we cashout on Party bad swings always happen. Let me edit that, not always but it does happen majority of the time. I think I'm ready to actually play serious hold'em and will probably deposit 500bb and start playing $5/10 for a living.

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I hope you have more than 500bb because your OP and this post about downswings coupled with this small sample size indicate you should consider keeping (or getting) a day job until you are more comfortable with enormous swings.
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Old 03-24-2006, 09:32 AM
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Default Re: Stat Check $5/10 only 1,119 hands though (3/20-3/23)

imashyboi,

You said: "all I'm saying is whenever you cashout on Party bad swings does happen".

If you truly believe this - I advise you to keep your 500BBs for whatever limit you're planning on playing in the bank. After all, how are you going to support yourself as a pro of you can never cashout?

or I could say....

If you truly believe this - I advise you to keep your 500BBs for whatever limit you're planning on playing in the bank. It's obvious, from your belief, that your sample size is too small to determine whether you're actually a winning player. Trying to go pro without being sure is clearly not a good idea.
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Old 03-24-2006, 10:30 AM
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Default Re: Stat Check $5/10 only 1,119 hands though (3/20-3/23)

this post should be locked. i'm sorry, just my opinion. give me a [censored] break. 1119 hands? i play that in two or three hours. omg.
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Old 03-24-2006, 10:39 AM
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Default Re: Stat Check $5/10 only 1,119 hands though (3/20-3/23)

I need to polish some of my postflop plays still but going pro is not out of the question. I think my preflop plays are good enough to beat the game but there's nothing we can do about bad luck. I'm not thinking about that when I play hold'em. All I want to do is make the correct plays without going on tilt. I just mentioned the "cashout curse" just because it happens regardless if we believe it or not, this has no impact on how I play though. Someone who has 500bb and plays good preflop and decent postflop should be able to beat the game 1bb/100, of course we're trying to go at least 2-3bb/100.
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Old 03-24-2006, 10:41 AM
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Default Re: Stat Check $5/10 only 1,119 hands though (3/20-3/23)

Dude, why you getting mad at the post when I clearly said I only have 1,119 hands. You can just read and pass on if you have nothing good to say. It's koo though I'm not mad or anything, just thought you had something better to say than your comment.
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Old 03-24-2006, 10:44 AM
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Default Re: Stat Check $5/10 only 1,119 hands though (3/20-3/23)

like i said, sorry. i just hate the clutter. there is a forum for this: BBV.
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Old 03-24-2006, 10:52 AM
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Default Re: Stat Check $5/10 only 1,119 hands though (3/20-3/23)

In all seriousness, your entire weeks stats are what I would normally play in a session. You can not look at these stats as independent samples from a weeks worth of play in the manner that you are. Any experienced player knows that each hand played is a completely random event which does not change due to a period of time between the last hand you played on Monday and the first you played on Tuesday. Therefore your sample would equate to a normal session for a player that's multitabling 4 or more hours a day and would represent exactly the same thing any player does. You lost a whopping $56! We all have swings like this in a session at times. This is nothing shocking. Nobody is really criticizing you, they're just trying to make this same point without explaining it to you in detail.

I would recommend that you find some hands throughout the week where you may feel you lost a few more bets than you should have, or maybe you missed some value and aren't sure, and post those rather than a 'insignificant' sample of data. Finding those particular leaks would be much better for your winrate than asking for a generalization based on this data. There really aren't enough played hands in this sample to make any real determinations about your play based on this alone.
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Old 03-24-2006, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: Stat Check $5/10 only 1,119 hands though (3/20-3/23)

imashyboi,

Can you tell us how many total, real money hands you've played since you started online?
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Old 03-24-2006, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: Stat Check $5/10 only 1,119 hands though (3/20-3/23)

Post in BBV.
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Old 03-24-2006, 04:26 PM
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Also, I recently just cashed out on Party so maybe I'm taking a hit. I try not to think about it but I want to mention it anyway because I'm sure people who cashed out on Party tend to have bad swings after

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often people who just cashed out were on a very good run of cards, well the very good run doesn't last forever, and often swings back the opposite way fast

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So we agree that whenever we cashout on Party bad swings always happen. Let me edit that, not always but it does happen majority of the time. I think I'm ready to actually play serious hold'em and will probably deposit 500bb and start playing $5/10 for a living. I'm probably going to move up everytime I have 500bb to cover the swings. After playing $5/10 I notice there are TONS of weak players still in this game that dones't understand the concept. They tend to play weak hands out of position HOPING to get lucky with the flop. I always tell myself that only happens so many times and once your luck runs out you'll be giving those back to me.

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lets see you played a 1000hands of 5/10 lost 5.5BB and are complaining about that swing, yet you think you are ready to turn pro, and only have 500BB .. you are nuts, or you have very very small expenses and can afford to go months without cashing out
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