NL100 : No Reason To Call This Checkraise Right?

rapidacid · #1 07-10-2007, 01:15 PM

Villain has a flop AF of 6

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UTG ($134.70)
MP ($103.10)
Hero ($98.50)
Button ($135.70)
SB ($75.10)
BB ($125.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $3.5, Button calls $3.50, 2 folds.

Flop: ($8.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $6, Button raises to $25, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $39.50

J-Bo · #2 07-10-2007, 01:21 PM

I fold.

Though I'm sure some will call and get it in on a non-club turn, which may be better.

Jamougha · #3 07-10-2007, 01:22 PM

I call and get it in on a non-club turn.

Though I'm sure some will fold, which may be better.

bunga · #4 07-10-2007, 01:23 PM

This isn't a c/r. Folding is fine here, although calling and reevaluating the turn is fine.

rapidacid · #5 07-10-2007, 01:26 PM

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This isn't a c/r. Folding is fine here, although calling and reevaluating the turn is fine.

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Wow ... why in the hell did I think this was a checkraise ...

bkar824 · #6 07-10-2007, 01:35 PM

KK, AK, AQ, AJ, 66, 77. All likely holdings. The villain has huge aggro factor. What is his VPIP? This could extend his range to all pockets and weak aces, or define it as AK and AK only. Against any reasonable opponent I fold because of bad position. What are you going to do if you call then check the turn and he shoves? You're going to have an even tougher decision (and you'll probably have to fold.) Also, if you're going to shove a non-club turn, why not just push now, you're not giving him odds to call with the flush if you do.

If this were actually a c/r, I call and hope he gives me a free river by checking the turn. In this situation I fold.

johnnyrocket · #7 07-10-2007, 01:40 PM

how large is the sample, if its significant i am calling this raise and c/r'ing the turn all in.

Will he let me c/r tho? what is his TA? If that is low I am inclined to then lead a blank turn, if it is high also I am c/r'ing all in

If it is a small sample then its a lot tougher problem

Noam Chomsky · #8 07-10-2007, 01:41 PM

Raises cont. bet % is a more valuable stat that flop aggression for evaluating these spots.

rapidacid · #9 07-10-2007, 01:43 PM

He's 17/12 ... I previously had stats filtered for this month only with about 50 hands on him ... if I saw he was 17/12 I wouldn't have even posted this

Fat Nicky · #10 07-10-2007, 01:48 PM

i'd at least call the flop raise. villain could be raising this flop w/so much, including weaker As, draws and complete air. routinely folding this flop is a recipe to getting run over.