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rapidacid 07-10-2007 01:15 PM

NL100 : No Reason To Call This Checkraise Right?
 
Villain has a flop AF of 6

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($134.70)
MP ($103.10)
Hero ($98.50)
Button ($135.70)
SB ($75.10)
BB ($125.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, Button calls $3.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($8.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $25</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $39.50

J-Bo 07-10-2007 01:21 PM

Re: NL100 : No Reason To Call This Checkraise Right?
 
I fold.

Though I'm sure some will call and get it in on a non-club turn, which may be better.

Jamougha 07-10-2007 01:22 PM

Re: NL100 : No Reason To Call This Checkraise Right?
 
I call and get it in on a non-club turn.

Though I'm sure some will fold, which may be better.

bunga 07-10-2007 01:23 PM

Re: NL100 : No Reason To Call This Checkraise Right?
 
This isn't a c/r. Folding is fine here, although calling and reevaluating the turn is fine.

rapidacid 07-10-2007 01:26 PM

Re: NL100 : No Reason To Call This Checkraise Right?
 
[ QUOTE ]
This isn't a c/r. Folding is fine here, although calling and reevaluating the turn is fine.

[/ QUOTE ]

Wow ... why in the hell did I think this was a checkraise ...

bkar824 07-10-2007 01:35 PM

Re: NL100 : No Reason To Call This Checkraise Right?
 
KK, AK, AQ, AJ, 66, 77. All likely holdings. The villain has huge aggro factor. What is his VPIP? This could extend his range to all pockets and weak aces, or define it as AK and AK only. Against any reasonable opponent I fold because of bad position. What are you going to do if you call then check the turn and he shoves? You're going to have an even tougher decision (and you'll probably have to fold.) Also, if you're going to shove a non-club turn, why not just push now, you're not giving him odds to call with the flush if you do.

If this were actually a c/r, I call and hope he gives me a free river by checking the turn. In this situation I fold.

johnnyrocket 07-10-2007 01:40 PM

Re: NL100 : No Reason To Call This Checkraise Right?
 
how large is the sample, if its significant i am calling this raise and c/r'ing the turn all in.

Will he let me c/r tho? what is his TA? If that is low I am inclined to then lead a blank turn, if it is high also I am c/r'ing all in

If it is a small sample then its a lot tougher problem

Noam Chomsky 07-10-2007 01:41 PM

Re: NL100 : No Reason To Call This Checkraise Right?
 
Raises cont. bet % is a more valuable stat that flop aggression for evaluating these spots.

rapidacid 07-10-2007 01:43 PM

Re: NL100 : No Reason To Call This Checkraise Right?
 
He's 17/12 ... I previously had stats filtered for this month only with about 50 hands on him ... if I saw he was 17/12 I wouldn't have even posted this

Fat Nicky 07-10-2007 01:48 PM

Re: NL100 : No Reason To Call This Checkraise Right?
 
i'd at least call the flop raise. villain could be raising this flop w/so much, including weaker As, draws and complete air. routinely folding this flop is a recipe to getting run over.


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