TT early in Stars 200 MTT

dogrib · #1 02-13-2007, 07:40 PM

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t25/t50
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t10825
UTG+1: t9025
MP1: t10000
MP2: t10250
MP3: t10525
CO: t10075
Button: t9750
SB: t9975
dogrib: t10000

Pre-flop: (9 players) dogrib is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls t50 (pot was t75), UTG+1 calls t50 (pot was t125), MP1 calls t50 (pot was t175), MP2 folds, MP3 calls t50 (pot was t225), CO folds, Button calls t50 (pot was t275), SB calls t25 (pot was t325), dogrib raises to t200, UTG calls t150 (pot was t500), UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls t150 (pot was t650), MP3 calls t150 (pot was t800), Button calls t150 (pot was t950), SB calls t150 (pot was t1100).

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t1250, 6 players)
SB checks, dogrib bets t1150, UTG folds, MP1 raises to t3300, 3 folds, dogrib folds.
Uncalled bets: t2150 returned to MP1.

Results:
Final pot: t3550

Was the fold too wimpy?

Rickyroodido · #2 02-13-2007, 07:49 PM

raise alot more preflop if your going to raise it.
I would bet less on the flop since its such a dry board, maybe 600, as played I would probably also fold to the raise.

Cky3 · #3 02-13-2007, 08:06 PM

I don't like a fold here. I think you're looking for an excuse to fold. You're behind 3 hands here. He's not limping JJ+. IMO this raise can mean overcards, 88 77 66 even 55 if he's bold. I like a push and if he has a set oh well but if not you scoop a nice pot. You're letting yourself get pushed around with an overpair on an uncoordinated board. Establish an "I don't [censored] around" image. If he does have a set then i'm sorry for the horrid advice.

Das Budrick · #4 02-13-2007, 09:19 PM

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I don't like a fold here. I think you're looking for an excuse to fold. You're behind 3 hands here. He's not limping JJ+. IMO this raise can mean overcards, 88 77 66 even 55 if he's bold. I like a push and if he has a set oh well but if not you scoop a nice pot. You're letting yourself get pushed around with an overpair on an uncoordinated board. Establish an "I don't [censored] around" image. If he does have a set then i'm sorry for the horrid advice.

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I have seen this play on several occasions where villian DID limp with JJ+ looking for exactly a flop like this. However, much more often this is A9 or 88 who puts you on missed over cards. I'm calling here and sighing if villain shows down a monster. I think this is a worse hand than TT often enough to make it a +eV play

Cky3 · #5 02-13-2007, 11:09 PM

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I don't like a fold here. I think you're looking for an excuse to fold. You're behind 3 hands here. He's not limping JJ+. IMO this raise can mean overcards, 88 77 66 even 55 if he's bold. I like a push and if he has a set oh well but if not you scoop a nice pot. You're letting yourself get pushed around with an overpair on an uncoordinated board. Establish an "I don't [censored] around" image. If he does have a set then i'm sorry for the horrid advice.

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I have seen this play on several occasions where villian DID limp with JJ+ looking for exactly a flop like this. However, much more often this is A9 or 88 who puts you on missed over cards. I'm calling here and sighing if villain shows down a monster. I think this is a worse hand than TT often enough to make it a +eV play

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Well like you said imo more often you're ahead then behind. If player has shown to be tight then lay it down I suppose. Even then i'd be pretty hard pressed to lay this down here. Maybe I suck but people limping with JJ+ here and not coming over the top at all with so much action pre-flop is unlikely.

splashthap0t · #6 02-14-2007, 12:11 AM

Well i was the villian in this hand, did not put you on even close to 10s...im interested what kind of range you put me on to raise so big with ppl behind me? Anyways id be glad to tell you what i had, but i kinda want to see some comments about what ppl think you shouldve done here!