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01-21-2007, 05:30 AM
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Discussion: Common preflop situations
A couple of common preflop situations. If you say raise, include also how much to raise to.
For all hands, assume: 50NL, 6 players 100bb stacks No reads Hand #1: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO raises to $2, Button calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hand #2: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hand #3: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO raises to $2, 2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hand #4: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG raises to $2, folds around, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hand #5: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hand #6: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 1 fold, MP calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hand #7: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hand #8: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> 
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#2
01-21-2007, 05:35 AM
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Re: Discussion: Common preflop situations
A couple of common preflop situations. If you say raise, include also how much to raise to.
For all hands, assume: 50NL, 6 players 100bb stacks No reads Hand #1: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO raises to $2, Button calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> reraise pot Hand #2: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> limp/fold to bb raise Hand #3: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO raises to $2, 2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> fold Hand #4: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG raises to $2, folds around, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> call, check flop if weak bet raise, fold to r/r unless u see two nines. jk. Hand #5: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="red"> Hero? </font> fold Hand #6: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 1 fold, MP calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> raise pot, fold to r/r, if checked to on flop 2/3 pot Hand #7: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> i like a liimp with no read, AA could be UTG. Hand #8: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> fold
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#3
01-21-2007, 05:56 AM
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Re: Discussion: Common preflop situations
Hand #1: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, Button calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> I'd raise to $10, CO and button's range is pretty wide here. Hand #2: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Standard raise to $2, but it can get tricky post flop, I'd hope to take it down with a CB. Hand #3: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO raises to $2, 2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> I'd probably 50% raise here to $6, because we have a pretty solid hand, and 50% call because we're OOP for the rest of the hand. Hand #4: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG raises to $2, folds around, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Call and see the flop hopefully with a 9, or at least no AKQJ. Hand #5: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="red"> Hero? </font> I'd fold. Hand #6: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 1 fold, MP calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Raise to $2, MP seems weak and I have position. Hand #7: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> I don't know here, I'd sometimes fold, call or raise with calling being the worst, since I don't indicate any strength and that makes it harder to take with a CB on the flop. Hand #8: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Sometimes call, sometimes fold. Fold more than call.
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#4
01-21-2007, 06:14 AM
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Re: Discussion: Common preflop situations
Hand #1: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, Button calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Pot size reraise sounds good. Hand #2: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Complete. Hand #3: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO raises to $2, 2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Call. Hand #4: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG raises to $2, folds around, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Call. Hand #5: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Raise to $2. Hand #6: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 1 fold, MP calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Raise to $2.50, try to buy the button and get position on this hand. Hand #7: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Call, try not to get involved in a big pot postflop if you hit your ace. Against tougher players, you might let this go, but here I think seeing a flop is okay. Hand #8: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Call here, try to outplay MP after the flop.
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#5
01-21-2007, 06:17 AM
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Re: Discussion: Common preflop situations
Hand #1: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO raises to $2, Button calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hero raises to $9. Hand #2: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hero calls. Hand #3: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO raises to $2, 2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Depends on CO. 80% fold, 20% raise to $7. Hand #4: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG raises to $2, folds around, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hero calls. Hand #5: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Depends on MP/CO/BTN. Raise 50%, fold 50% Hand #6: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 1 fold, MP calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hero raises to $2.50. Hand #7: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hero raises to $3. Fold when your image is bad, etc. Hand #8: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Hero calls.
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#6
01-21-2007, 07:03 AM
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Re: Discussion: Common preflop situations
[ QUOTE ]
A couple of common preflop situations. If you say raise, include also how much to raise to. For all hands, assume: 50NL, 6 players 100bb stacks No reads Hand #1: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO raises to $2, Button calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> [/ QUOTE ] Repot. [ QUOTE ] Hand #2: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> [/ QUOTE ] Call so you can bust his a$$. [ QUOTE ] Hand #3: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO raises to $2, 2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> [/ QUOTE ] Fold, you have bupkis OOP. Consider a resteal vs. a lagtard/aggro 2+2er. [ QUOTE ] Hand #4: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG raises to $2, folds around, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> [/ QUOTE ] Call so you can bust his a$$. [ QUOTE ] Hand #5: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="red"> Hero? </font> [/ QUOTE ] Folds on most tables, sometimes raises, sometimes minraises, sometimes calls, hope this helps. [ QUOTE ] Hand #6: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 1 fold, MP calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> [/ QUOTE ] Read-dependent, default is raise to 1. [ QUOTE ] Hand #7: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> [/ QUOTE ] Read-dependent, default is fold b/c your hand sux. [ QUOTE ] Hand #8: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> [/ QUOTE ] Turbo-muck.
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#7
01-21-2007, 07:25 AM
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Re: Discussion: Common preflop situations
Good thread.
[ QUOTE ] A couple of common preflop situations. If you say raise, include also how much to raise to. For all hands, assume: 50NL, 6 players 100bb stacks No reads Hand #1: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO raises to $2, Button calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Raise ~9 Hand #2: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Call Hand #3: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, CO raises to $2, 2 folds, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Pretty read dependant really. Without reads ill probably tend towards folding this. If I found CO trying to steal my blind regularly then ill play back. Hand #4: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG raises to $2, folds around, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Call Hand #5: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Raise to $2 Hand #6: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 1 fold, MP calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Raise to $2.5 Hand #7: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Call without reads, if UTG and CO have a high VPIP and are folding to raises a lot then ill make it $3. Hand #8: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 1 fold, MP raises to $2, 1 fold, <font color="red"> Hero? </font> Fold. [/ QUOTE ]
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#8
01-21-2007, 07:34 AM
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Re: Discussion: Common preflop situations
I raise to 7.5 most times but sometimes just flat call.
II call, i don't like fd oop but since it is to the ace I will limp. I will raise this now and again but usually because I think CO is weak. III Without reads I call most of the time. I raise to 5.5 once in a while and fold sometimes but those decisions are based on reads. I am not a big fan of AJ these days and even when suited I am dubious oop and HU but it seems worth a call. IV Call (I used to raise this more often but I notice the people have become a bit more positionally aware in their pf play) V I will fold, limp (gasp!) and raise to 2 in roughly equal measure. VI Raise to 2.5 VII Raise to 3 or fold in about equal measure depending on my table image atm and looseness of blinds. If I just sat down with a whole table of unknowns I let this one go unless I feel extra frisky. VIII call about 2/3 and raise to 5.5 about 1/3.
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#9
01-21-2007, 07:44 AM
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Re: Discussion: Common preflop situations
1. reraise to 7$
2. call (not sure about this. maybe a leak) 3. reraise to 7$ (read dependent. sometimes fold) 4. call 5. fold - bet about 70/30 % 6. raise to 2.5$ 7. raise to 2.5$ ( 8. call
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#10
01-21-2007, 07:59 AM
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Re: Discussion: Common preflop situations
pineapple888, don`t you think that min. raising 66 there gives to much info away ? People could put you on a small pp everytime you only min raise there.
Regarding 67s your completely right. I said call earlier, but with BB still behind to call and being out out position against 2 players your right. Turbo-Muck
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