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Old 10-17-2006, 11:35 PM
sheetsworld sheetsworld is offline
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Default Re: The 1k sngs....an interetsing observation?

Bax and I do not agree to chop headsup, although if we have even stacks we might. We do not soft play each other. We bubbleeach other in 1k sngs, 500 sngs, and every other thing...Softplaying, besides being unethical, is bad for business and bad for karma and just plain bad.


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Old 10-17-2006, 11:40 PM
IWEARGOGGLES IWEARGOGGLES is offline
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Default Re: The 1k sngs....an interetsing observation?

I think the $1100s are beatable. Not saying I'm the one to do it because I hate SNGs, but I definitely think they're beatable.
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Old 10-17-2006, 11:53 PM
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and yes, everyone on this forum (perhaps except curtains and newt buggs) say alot of stupid [censored] on this forum constantly (mostly not relating to strategy, tho). no one is immune to it. that's one thing i have learned for sure.

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Nah, curtains posts random retarded stuff like the rest of us now. We've corrupted him finally.

Newt_Buggs just posts about curtains.
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Old 10-18-2006, 12:14 AM
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Default Re: The 1k sngs....an interetsing observation?

stars regulars love to resteal with marginal hands.
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Old 10-18-2006, 12:17 AM
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Default Re: The 1k sngs....an interetsing observation?

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stars regulars love to resteal with marginal hands.

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1) this is at all stakes
2) "marginal" is complementing this set of hands.
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Old 10-18-2006, 12:19 AM
Michael C. Michael C. is offline
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Default Morality of chopping

I just switched from Party to mostly Stars. Chopping was never even an issue on Party, but yesterday on Stars I got heads up in a 335 vs. a Stars regular with even chips, and after at first saying no, I agreed to chop so we could both concentrate on other games. I didn't really see anything wrong with it, as we both had played all out up to that point, and at high blinds it's pretty much a crapshoot anyway. But does anyone think that is unfair or in any way the wrong thing to do? Since I never came across it on Party, I haven't really thought about it, but I'd definitely want to do things the right way. Thanks...
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Old 10-18-2006, 12:26 AM
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PokerStars Game #6674707492: Tournament #33936997, $1050+$50 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2006/10/18 - 00:21:06 (ET)
Table '33936997 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: harden2u (1400 in chips)
Seat 2: Harrington10 (1485 in chips)
Seat 3: lilholdem954 (1330 in chips)
Seat 4: dragonlady7 (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: Halfrek (1530 in chips)
Seat 6: capdan6 (1695 in chips)
Seat 7: biscuithead (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: ElkY (1600 in chips)
Seat 9: bigjoe2003 (1460 in chips)
dragonlady7: posts small blind 15
Halfrek: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
capdan6: folds
biscuithead: folds
ElkY: folds
bigjoe2003: calls 30
harden2u: calls 30
Harrington10: calls 30
lilholdem954: folds
dragonlady7: folds
Halfrek: checks
*** FLOP *** [Jc 3h 2d]
Halfrek: checks
bigjoe2003: bets 60
harden2u: calls 60
Harrington10: folds
Halfrek: calls 60
*** TURN *** [Jc 3h 2d] [Qc]
Halfrek: checks
bigjoe2003: bets 210
harden2u: raises 210 to 420
Halfrek: folds
bigjoe2003: calls 210
*** RIVER *** [Jc 3h 2d Qc] [4c]
bigjoe2003: checks
harden2u: bets 890 and is all-in
bigjoe2003: calls 890
*** SHOW DOWN ***
harden2u: shows [5c 4h] (a pair of Fours)
bigjoe2003: shows [Jh Qh] (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
bigjoe2003 collected 2935 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2935 | Rake 0
Board [Jc 3h 2d Qc 4c]
Seat 1: harden2u showed [5c 4h] and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 2: Harrington10 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: lilholdem954 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: dragonlady7 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Halfrek (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 6: capdan6 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: biscuithead folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ElkY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: bigjoe2003 showed [Jh Qh] and won (2935) with two pair, Queens and Jacks
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Old 10-18-2006, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: Morality of chopping

Agreeing to chop isn't the issue, it's the possibility of a standing, prearranged agreement to chop that makes people nervous.
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Old 10-18-2006, 12:42 AM
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Default Re: The 1k sngs....an interetsing observation?

PokerStars Game #6674930227: Tournament #33936997, $1050+$50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2006/10/18 - 00:41:27 (ET)
Table '33936997 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 5: Halfrek (6685 in chips)
Seat 7: biscuithead (2925 in chips)
Seat 8: ElkY (2715 in chips)
Seat 9: bigjoe2003 (1175 in chips)
Halfrek: posts small blind 100
biscuithead: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
ElkY: raises 2515 to 2715 and is all-in
bigjoe2003: folds
Halfrek: calls 2615
biscuithead: folds
*** FLOP *** [7d Ah Jd]
*** TURN *** [7d Ah Jd] [8c]
*** RIVER *** [7d Ah Jd 8c] [Ks]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Halfrek: shows [Qs Qd] (a pair of Queens)
ElkY: shows [5s 5d] (a pair of Fives)
ElkY is sitting out
Halfrek collected 5630 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5630 | Rake 0
Board [7d Ah Jd 8c Ks]
Seat 5: Halfrek (small blind) showed [Qs Qd] and won (5630) with a pair of Queens
Seat 7: biscuithead (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: ElkY showed [5s 5d] and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 9: bigjoe2003 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 10-18-2006, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: The 1k sngs....an interetsing observation?

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fwiw, I see no reason any of the good 2+2ers...all 5 of them... couldnt have at least 3% roi in the $1000s...Also, some people dont mind swings, as they dont mind risking the 150k bankroll or whatever you need to play that game with a small roi. I'll be there in 3 months after I get 100k online again. From what I have seen in the alst week, the "good" stars players play about as well as the breakeven party people, so I see no reason why most anyone couldnt make at least some profit if they know how to play.

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Hey, I never said 3% wasn't possible of course [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Get ready for the swings from hell though.
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