The 1k sngs....an interetsing observation?
 

Whenever a new format or structure emerges, a very interesting phenomenon occurs. This goes back to the introduction of the party steps, then the party 530s, and now the 1k turbos on stars. The phenomenon is eesentially this,,,

About 20 people proclaim how "soft" the new games are, and announce how they are destroying them, outplaying everyone there, etc.

As someone who does a pretty darn good job of assesing play, I will say that the play in the 1ks on stars has been pretty darn strong, and that every good player is getting their share of wins losses and bad beats...good2cu had perhaps the worst single day of luck i have ever seeen a week or so ago....#1pen is in the midst of coming in 4th like 20 times in a row today...I have won more thna my share in the short time they have run but certainly not due to "outplaying" any of these players.

Overall, the play is quite good....good2cu and pwnasaurus and bigjoe and cferg when he plays are bringing their party skills to stars as well as others. Yes there are a few weakies but net net it is damn good sng poker being played, with very few GLARING errors.

What is also interesting is the 315 turbo they have added as wel...what is occuring is that stars is really making it so everyone "finds their level" and the players that cant beat the 1ks wil go to the 555s etc etc etc...but what is definitely going to happen is this. Play will continue to improve at the higest levels.

I won a 1k heads up with pwn a few days ago where literally no one made a mistake the whole tournament. I went through it afterwards and literally EVERY push or fold play was correct (obv as best as i can tell...cant tell what people folded when they may have pushed)...It was pretty sick. As someone who runs a training site, this is really good stuff, as there will be many instructive videos to come from these, and people who are not quite at that level would serve themselve well by railing these tournaments, as the play really is of a high caliber.


sheets

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Do you think you have an edge in them? If so, how big? I havn't touched them because I don't think I could deal with the variance playing with such small an adge, if I even have one to begin with. I guess table selection is really key but kind of hard when there are 7 top pros in every one.

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I have to say bigballz, this is as good as it has gotten as far as quality goes. Everyone is push folding within .3% of accuracy, and all edges are gained from "other" things...player reads...preflop midlevel steals...post flop play in ealier levels to get chips (gasp)(maybe some of gigabets and my bs might be worth something in this constrct who knows) sure I have enough tricks up my sleeve where I think I have an edge, but make no mistake, this is tough play.

sheets

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lol there is NO WAY that anyone who says the 1ks are very soft should be taken seriously.

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Edit: [censored]! too late.

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a couple of the ones i railed i saw some glaring errors, but that does not mean you are wrong in general

also it's possible people are shoving not often enough and you don't see the hands they fold

again, i'm not saying they are soft just a couple of thoughts to point out

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IMO, the stars sngs are so incredibly soft its ridiculous. It sucks that me, mario, good2cu, and z32fanatic are playing in every game, but besides us everyone is horrible. The Stars "regulars" will all be horribly busto soon. I think long term roi's of 10% are very attainable at the 530s and 1k sngs and 15% roi is attainable at the 225s


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...what a tool

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IMO, the stars sngs are so incredibly soft its ridiculous. It sucks that me, mario, good2cu, and z32fanatic are playing in every game, but besides us everyone is horrible. The Stars "regulars" will all be horribly busto soon. I think long term roi's of 10% are very attainable at the 530s and 1k sngs and 15% roi is attainable at the 225s


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lolol yea right 10% ROI at the 1ks, thats like the [censored] dumbest thing Ive ever heard.

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IMO, the stars sngs are so incredibly soft its ridiculous. It sucks that me, mario, good2cu, and z32fanatic are playing in every game, but besides us everyone is horrible. The Stars "regulars" will all be horribly busto soon. I think long term roi's of 10% are very attainable at the 530s and 1k sngs and 15% roi is attainable at the 225s


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lolol yea right 10% ROI at the 1ks, thats like the [censored] dumbest thing Ive ever heard.

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I smell a prop bet.

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lololol i would take that bet any day but the only source of reliability is sharkscope....