AK unimproved river play

[geormiet]

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If I check 77 on the turn and he checks behind, no way I fire at a blank river.

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yeah i dont get it either.

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Why not? it's a good play

[Scary_Tiger]

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If I check 77 on the turn and he checks behind, no way I fire at a blank river.

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yeah i dont get it either.

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Why not? it's a good play

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Because Victor will bet AK and tilt.

[milesdyson]

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If I check 77 on the turn and he checks behind, no way I fire at a blank river.

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yeah i dont get it either.

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Why not? it's a good play

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the board is T83Qx with a flush draw on the flop and you didnt cap preflop so he doesnt think you can have AK. so what is he hoping for on the river by betting 77? that you call AJ? 66?

[Victor]

st you would NEVER check the turn or river here and i know it. you would likely call the river with kj. regardless, you dont fit this description "Solid and for the most part straightforward"

[geormiet]

Yes.

When I check the turn, i've shown a lot of weakness. Let's say I have one of three holdings:

1) Marginal showdownable hand that is weaker than 77, like AK, AJ

2) WEak hand with no showdown value

3) Marginal showdownable hand that is stronger than 77.

Assuming I won't bluff if I have #2 (which I won't probably) he'd be correct to bet 77 against both 1 and 3 rather than check calling because i'm value betting #3

[milesdyson]

geormiet

your category 1 is AK and AJ, but like i said why would he expect you to have AK?

also if you think he doesnt have 99 or 77 here (i just think he can), the river seems like an easy value bet because according to you he can only have AK or AJ.

[The Funky Llama]

geormiet is right, thats a really easy bet with 77 if the turn goes check/check...hell, its an easy bet for 22.

[The Funky Llama]

geormiet,

Do you think he would call with AJ here?

Can he have something like A9s? Would he call with it?

If you think he would pay off with those hands I think you have a clear value bet. Yes, its pretty thin, but if he is indeed quite solid there are not many hands he can have here.

FWIW, I think a solid player should be check/folding AJ here if he knows you are solid.

[geormiet]

You can't just rule out AK because there was no cap pf. Maybe discount it slightly, but I routinely don't cap AK in spots like this against decent hand readers.

[geormiet]

I think he'd call with AJ but I'm not sure. A9 i'm almost sure he'd fold. Not that the hand strength is any different, but that's how people play.