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Old 09-24-2006, 11:15 AM
sirio11 sirio11 is offline
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Default Report: Iraq War Made Terror Worse

Was really that hard to see this coming 3 years ago?

Report: Iraq War Made Terror Worse
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Old 09-24-2006, 11:56 AM
Felix_Nietzsche Felix_Nietzsche is offline
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Default I Don\'t Agree

I don't agree. Before the 2nd Iraq War, terrorist attacks were increasing against the USA.
Before the 2nd Iraq War there were:
1. the African Embassy Bombings,
2. the attack on the USS Cole,
3. the first bombing of the World Trade center, and
4. the second attack on the world trade center on 9/11.
*And this is NOT a comprehensive list!

The trend BEFORE the Iraq war was an increase both in the number and audacity of terrorists attacks against the USA. The analyst that wrote this nonsense decided to ignore this.... The trend al Qaeda terrorism began during Clinton's presidency and increased due to his incompetance...

The are lots of would be terrorists in the middle-east. There main constraint is money.
Now that the USA is in Afghanistan and Iraq, terrorists can travel cheaply to these two countries to attack Americans.

If Bush43 succeeds in creating a free and independent Iraq, then the benefits will revolutionize the middle-east... I don't like our chances in Afghanistan. The Afghan culture has a long history of decadence and barbarity and I think the NATO policy in Afghanistan is highly flawed....
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Old 09-24-2006, 11:57 AM
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Default Re: Report: Iraq War Made Terror Worse

Felix, we're not talking about one analyst writing a report:

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The report, the classified National Intelligence Estimate, "says that the Iraq war has made the overall terrorism problem worse," one American intelligence official told The New York Times.
Completed in April, the intelligence estimate reflects the views of 16 different spy agencies within the U.S. government. Instead of weakening Islamic radicalism, the report titled "Trends in Global Terrorism: Implications for the United States," says the jihad ideology has spread worldwide since the Iraq war.

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Old 09-24-2006, 12:25 PM
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Default Re: Report: Iraq War Made Terror Worse

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Felix, we're not talking about one analyst writing a report:

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The report, the classified National Intelligence Estimate, "says that the Iraq war has made the overall terrorism problem worse," one American intelligence official told The New York Times.
Completed in April, the intelligence estimate reflects the views of 16 different spy agencies within the U.S. government. Instead of weakening Islamic radicalism, the report titled "Trends in Global Terrorism: Implications for the United States," says the jihad ideology has spread worldwide since the Iraq war.

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No, youre talking about 16 spy agencies that dont necessarily have the types of people on board to predict what would have happened with alternative reactions to SH and the war on terror.

What we do know is that during the inaction of the prior years, they did a damn good job of recruiting and training terrorist world wide. To assume that the growth after the Iraq war would have been greater or less than absent the war is more speculation than science.
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Old 09-24-2006, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: Report: Iraq War Made Terror Worse

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What we do know is that during the inaction of the prior years, they did a damn good job of recruiting and training terrorist world wide. To assume that the growth after the Iraq war would have been greater or less than absent the war is more speculation than science.

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Amen.....
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Old 09-24-2006, 07:06 PM
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No, youre talking about 16 spy agencies that dont necessarily have the types of people on board to predict what would have happened with alternative reactions to SH and the war on terror.

What we do know is that during the inaction of the prior years, they did a damn good job of recruiting and training terrorist world wide. To assume that the growth after the Iraq war would have been greater or less than absent the war is more speculation than science.

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I trust the speculation of 16 different spy agencies then a random person on a poker forum.

And to answer Sirio's question, I remember people speculating back before the invasion began about how we could breed more AntiAmericanism and terrorism by invading Iraq.
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Old 09-24-2006, 07:12 PM
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Default Re: Report: Iraq War Made Terror Worse

Except Im not speculating about anything. Now I remember why you were on ignore. I wont make the same mistake again.
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Old 09-24-2006, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: Report: Iraq War Made Terror Worse

Watching idiots trying to refute irrefutable facts amuses me.

Disclaimer: For anti-banning purposes, I am referring to no one in this thread. Just a general statement.
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Old 09-24-2006, 08:40 PM
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Default Re: Report: Iraq War Made Terror Worse

Wow, amazing insight: violence escalates in war.
That's like saying a boxing match turned violent once the bell rang.
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Old 09-24-2006, 09:43 PM
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Default Re: Report: Iraq War Made Terror Worse

Did anyone hear actually read the report to see exactly what it said? Or, is the fact that CBS reported it enough?
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