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Old 08-27-2006, 03:11 PM
KAknight KAknight is offline
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Then dont sign and dont play the WPT events. No one is holding a gun to their head forcing them to.

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*this is just my rough understanding of the situation*

The WPT has deals with the most of the large casinos that have the customer base to support the high buy in poker tournaments. In these deals the casinos agree to not have a high buy in tourney unless the WPT films it. The players can either sign away their rights, or not play. There are no other high buy in tourneys available regularly besides WPT events. Thus the WPT has a monopoly and that is why they filed an anti-trust suit.
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Old 08-27-2006, 03:21 PM
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No it hasn't. The defendent pled something about it in its answer. That doesn't mean anything. You can plead anything you want in an answer. There's no penalty for saying stuff that's completely irrelevant or bogus, and most of the content of an answer typically bears little resemblance to the reality of the lawsuit.

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Ouch ... I understand the point you are making ... parties do throw into their answers what would be deemed "argument" and not fact -- the WPTs response is a textbook example -- but the answer always "bears resemblance to the reality of the lawsuit." Much of it may be greek to the layperson, but it is the seminal document in the defense's response and one that they are bound by. If they make a mistake they can under certain circumstances move the court to amend it, but make no mistake that it is a very important document and has everything to do with the reality of the lawsuit. I assure you that WPTE paid at least $100,000 for the preparation of that answer.

But, again, I understand the point you are making about the extra stuff they throw in.

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Old 08-27-2006, 04:02 PM
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Default Re: DN loses respect for Raymer

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There are no other high buy in tourneys available regularly besides WPT events.

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LOL
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Old 08-27-2006, 04:24 PM
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There are no other high buy in tourneys available regularly besides WPT events.

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LOL

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Oops! I left out the word televised. Oh well.
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Old 08-27-2006, 04:33 PM
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There are no other high buy in tourneys available regularly besides WPT events.

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LOL

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Oops! I left out the word televised. Oh well.

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Well, let's see, just this week on TV I watched the Aussie Millions and the WSOP ME.
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Old 08-27-2006, 07:54 PM
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There are no other high buy in tourneys available regularly besides WPT events.

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LOL

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Oops! I left out the word televised. Oh well.

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Well, let's see, just this week on TV I watched the Aussie Millions and the WSOP ME.

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Also that USPC at Trump Plaza.

I would think with the marketing power some of the 7 have they should concentrate on starting their own poker tour.

If their sole desire is to make it better for all poker players. Then why not be the people to make the rules and not worry about following them.
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Old 08-27-2006, 08:58 PM
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is it just a coincedence that WSOP lowered their circuit events to 5k?
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Old 08-27-2006, 09:39 PM
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is it just a coincedence that WSOP lowered their circuit events to 5k?

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No, it must be some sort of conspiracy between the WSOP, the WPT, the USPC, the EPT, the FBI, the CIA, the DEA, and Doyle Brunson.
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Old 08-27-2006, 11:21 PM
TruePoker CEO TruePoker CEO is offline
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"It seems Daniel just likes to talk and doesn't think very much about the purpose/effect of what he's saying. "

.... That about sums it up, except that he doesn't seem to think much about the content of his rants either.
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Old 08-28-2006, 03:41 AM
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Then dont sign and dont play the WPT events. No one is holding a gun to their head forcing them to.

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*this is just my rough understanding of the situation*

The WPT has deals with the most of the large casinos that have the customer base to support the high buy in poker tournaments. In these deals the casinos agree to not have a high buy in tourney unless the WPT films it. The players can either sign away their rights, or not play. There are no other high buy in tourneys available regularly besides WPT events. Thus the WPT has a monopoly and that is why they filed an anti-trust suit.

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Exactly. I read in Poker Player that someone wanted to set up a big tournament at one of the big L.A. card clubs, but could not because the card club was locked into "WPT only" tournaments.
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