Stars 100NL, set on flop, deep stacks - Page 2

antidan444 · #11 07-25-2006, 01:28 PM

Actually I find a big flop 3-bet here lets villain get away from his big overpair too easy a lot of the time, which is why I like calling the raise and checkraising the turn. I'm not real worried about a flush draw here.

Fly · #12 07-25-2006, 01:29 PM

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Actually I find a big flop 3-bet here lets villain get away from his big overpair too easy a lot of the time, which is why I like calling the raise and checkraising the turn. I'm not real worried about a flush draw here.

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Well then your just wrong. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

PaultheS · #13 07-25-2006, 01:30 PM

Yeah, I considered the call and either lead or c/r turn but I was too afraid of a scare card hitting and killing my action. After his flop raise we still had $245 behind and I wanted to get that in the middle.

mattnxtc · #14 07-25-2006, 01:31 PM

IF villian has an over pair he is drawing to 2 outs. thats a good thing.

IF we let villian with ak type hands hit an ace or king well thats a good thing to.

Villian is rarely going to think just overpair if we get aggressive...You wouldnt think that and I wouldnt think that if im villian. by just callin it looks like we have possibly a draw or top pair. An overpair is gonna bet a decent turn card and we get paid off.

antidan444 · #15 07-25-2006, 01:31 PM

There's a good chance neither one of us is wrong. A lot of this is villain-dependent as well.

EDIT: This is directed at Fly.

PaultheS · #16 07-25-2006, 01:36 PM

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IF villian has an over pair he is drawing to 2 outs. thats a good thing.

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Drawing to 2 outs to win, but a lot more "outs" to let him off the hook (i.e. straight cards, diamonds). If he has a hand like QQ-TT there are a lot of turn cards that he would hate. The question is, do we get enough extra value out of him when a good turn card hits to make up for him folding when a bad turn card comes?

Fly · #17 07-25-2006, 01:39 PM

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There's a good chance neither one of us is wrong. A lot of this is villain-dependent as well.

EDIT: This is directed at Fly.

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btw, I was semi-joking when I said "well then your just wrong".

ajmargarine · #18 07-25-2006, 02:14 PM

I don't like this line. A decent player's going to dump his overpair to this. You can lead, call the raise, then c/c the turn or c/r turn ai depending on stacks. (He probably can get away from that as well given stacks).

It might be a decent spot for a small flop c/r. If he bets $15, c/r him to $35. That gives you a $90 pot if called. And then you can lead the turn for around $40 to try to suck him in. Lead river for $100 and you get about 2 buy-ins off of his Kings.