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Old 07-06-2006, 07:10 PM
pete3145 pete3145 is offline
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Default TT,100nl, flopped set, rivered quads, betsizing with nuts help

MP is pretty loose and aggressive dint think he would fold 2 pair or AK to my raise.

Think I have a leak with overbetting with very good hands. I think I would get more value from them if I would bet less. I often like to push All In on the river with the nuts, if the other player seems interrested. But if he is so interrested would he not be just as eager as me to get the money All in [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP3 ($100.95)
CO ($97.50)
Button ($97.50)
Hero ($135.15)
BB ($98.55)
UTG ($116.55)
UTG+1 ($108.85)
UTG+2 ($6)
MP1 ($106)
MP2 ($248.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $4</font>, MP3 calls $4, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero (poster) calls $3.50, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($16) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $8</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, BB folds, MP2 calls $8.

Turn: ($48) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, MP2 calls $20.

River: ($88) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ...

Final Pot: $183.15
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Old 07-06-2006, 07:16 PM
Albert Moulton Albert Moulton is offline
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Default Re: TT,100nl, flopped set, rivered quads, betsizing with nuts help

Raise more than the minimum on the flop.

Bet more on the turn.

Push whatever's left on the river.

I think you should be trying to get villain pot-committed by the river so he pretty much has to call with anything he's come so far with.

As played, bet 1/2 the pot ($44) on the river and hope he has a straight or full house and comes over the top for an all-in. I think $44 gets called by just about anything villain might have come so far with, including something as weak as AQ.
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Old 07-06-2006, 07:24 PM
Supesimmo Supesimmo is offline
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Default Re: TT,100nl, flopped set, rivered quads, betsizing with nuts help

In hands like this, you have to size your bets so that the pot size on later streets is big enough for your 2/3 PSB's/PSB's on the turn and the river to comprise the rest of your stack.

Although Check-Raising is a valid line here, I think a pretty good alternative is just to lead out for 5/6 of the pot.

As played, I think villain is folding to an all-in bet here. I'd bet $55ish
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Old 07-06-2006, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: TT,100nl, flopped set, rivered quads, betsizing with nuts help

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Raise more than the minimum on the flop.

Bet more on the turn.

Push whatever's left on the river.

I think you should be trying to get villain pot-committed by the river so he pretty much has to call with anything he's come so far with.

As played, bet 1/2 the pot ($44) on the river and hope he has a straight or full house and comes over the top for an all-in. I think $44 gets called by just about anything villain might have come so far with, including something as weak as AQ.

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i think he's got it right on the money
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Old 07-06-2006, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: TT,100nl, flopped set, rivered quads, betsizing with nuts help

As played try to get a little more then 44 in ont he river... betting more on the flop and turn would have helped the river
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Old 07-06-2006, 08:13 PM
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Default Re: TT,100nl, flopped set, rivered quads, betsizing with nuts help

lost alot of value in this hand imo. I would c/r bigger to ~$30+ rather than the minimum. Leading the flop isnt too bad of a line either.

The turn bet is super weak too. Building this pot quickly should be the only thing on your mind. I would value bet river for $50.
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Old 07-06-2006, 08:18 PM
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Default Re: TT,100nl, flopped set, rivered quads, betsizing with nuts help

Lock this thread? How to play quads is dealt with in the FAQ.
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Old 07-06-2006, 08:27 PM
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Default Re: TT,100nl, flopped set, rivered quads, betsizing with nuts help

Definately, bet-3-bet the flop. C/r shows significantly more strength and will put many opponents on gaurd. It also forces BB out without commiting any dead money.

Then bet more on every street.
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Old 07-06-2006, 08:28 PM
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Default Re: TT,100nl, flopped set, rivered quads, betsizing with nuts help

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Lock this thread? How to play quads is dealt with in the FAQ.

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That's on about flopped quads. Here, the rivered quads just confirm to OP that there is no chance he's beat
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