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01-09-2006, 08:05 PM
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Re: Pokerstars RNG (not a rigged post)
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omg!!! Where the heck do I say in my post that they are rigged? At best I said that a friend thinks they might be screwed up. Never rigged. Rigged is intentional. Screwed up is unintentional. One more time...for the mentally challenged... I.did.not.say.they.were.rigged.nor.do.I.think.they .are.rigged. Read it slowly. [/ QUOTE ] You said "more one, two and three outters than imagineable over the course of about 12 months". If you would care to explain how this could be done without intent, I'm all ears. If you can't do so, then we are left with intent on someone's part (if what you say is true, which it isn't). If there was intent, then this is a post about rigging. It appears to me that your continued existence is wasting oxygen that might better be used by more productive humans (like death row inmates or telemarketers). Do you not understand that many, many people complain about non-random results on poker sites? Do you not understand that they have been provided over and over again with mathematical demonstrations from huge sets of data showing that this non-randomness is simply not taking place? Do you not understand why it might get irritating? You knew that it was irritating, as shown by the fact that you tricked us into reading your post in the first place by claiming that it wasn't about rigging. This multiplies the irritation factor. 
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#23
01-12-2006, 12:07 AM
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Re: Pokerstars RNG (not a rigged post)
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[ QUOTE ] omg!!! Where the heck do I say in my post that they are rigged? At best I said that a friend thinks they might be screwed up. Never rigged. Rigged is intentional. Screwed up is unintentional. One more time...for the mentally challenged... I.did.not.say.they.were.rigged.nor.do.I.think.they .are.rigged. Read it slowly. [/ QUOTE ] You said "more one, two and three outters than imagineable over the course of about 12 months". If you would care to explain how this could be done without intent, I'm all ears. If you can't do so, then we are left with intent on someone's part (if what you say is true, which it isn't). If there was intent, then this is a post about rigging. It appears to me that your continued existence is wasting oxygen that might better be used by more productive humans (like death row inmates or telemarketers). Do you not understand that many, many people complain about non-random results on poker sites? Do you not understand that they have been provided over and over again with mathematical demonstrations from huge sets of data showing that this non-randomness is simply not taking place? Do you not understand why it might get irritating? You knew that it was irritating, as shown by the fact that you tricked us into reading your post in the first place by claiming that it wasn't about rigging. This multiplies the irritation factor. [/ QUOTE ] Why is it you only read and understand what you WANT the post to say. 1. I said I don't get any more bad beats then normal. 2. The people that actually do receive them HAVE been receiving more than normal, AND I DON'T THINK THE F**KING SITE IS RIGGED!!! 3. How many more times do I have to say that I don't think the site is rigged before you understand that I.don't.think.the.site.is.rigged? I mean, dude, what is a person supposed to do when they even TELL you that they don't think something, and because you are so ATTACHED to the idea that I think Stars is rigged, you just will not listen to me when I say that...I don't think Pokerstars is rigged? I really don't know what to say other than....I realize that Pokerstars is not rigged, I merely had a question about their MF'ing RNG, and IF an RNG could be done differently (if that's even possible) or handled differently from site to site in such a way that one RNG could be faulty whereas another RNG is not faulty? Just a freaking question. It's so amazing that of all the forums out there, this is the only one that has SO many people like you that instead of helping, want to take people's words and twist them, and fight and argue. I mean, the forum is a place to discuss ideas. And, while I would never want to discuss "riggedness" with someone (since I don't f**king think ANY site is rigged) I would like to know something about the SPECIFIC issue I brought forth which ONLY is about RNG's, and not "riggedness."
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#24
01-12-2006, 12:20 AM
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Re: Pokerstars RNG (not a rigged post)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] omg!!! Where the heck do I say in my post that they are rigged? At best I said that a friend thinks they might be screwed up. Never rigged. Rigged is intentional. Screwed up is unintentional. One more time...for the mentally challenged... I.did.not.say.they.were.rigged.nor.do.I.think.they .are.rigged. Read it slowly. [/ QUOTE ] You said "more one, two and three outters than imagineable over the course of about 12 months". If you would care to explain how this could be done without intent, I'm all ears. If you can't do so, then we are left with intent on someone's part (if what you say is true, which it isn't). If there was intent, then this is a post about rigging. It appears to me that your continued existence is wasting oxygen that might better be used by more productive humans (like death row inmates or telemarketers). Do you not understand that many, many people complain about non-random results on poker sites? Do you not understand that they have been provided over and over again with mathematical demonstrations from huge sets of data showing that this non-randomness is simply not taking place? Do you not understand why it might get irritating? You knew that it was irritating, as shown by the fact that you tricked us into reading your post in the first place by claiming that it wasn't about rigging. This multiplies the irritation factor. [/ QUOTE ] Why is it you only read and understand what you WANT the post to say. 1. I said I don't get any more bad beats then normal. 2. The people that actually do receive them HAVE been receiving more than normal, AND I DON'T THINK THE F**KING SITE IS RIGGED!!! 3. How many more times do I have to say that I don't think the site is rigged before you understand that I.don't.think.the.site.is.rigged? I mean, dude, what is a person supposed to do when they even TELL you that they don't think something, and because you are so ATTACHED to the idea that I think Stars is rigged, you just will not listen to me when I say that...I don't think Pokerstars is rigged? I really don't know what to say other than....I realize that Pokerstars is not rigged, I merely had a question about their MF'ing RNG, and IF an RNG could be done differently (if that's even possible) or handled differently from site to site in such a way that one RNG could be faulty whereas another RNG is not faulty? Just a freaking question. It's so amazing that of all the forums out there, this is the only one that has SO many people like you that instead of helping, want to take people's words and twist them, and fight and argue. I mean, the forum is a place to discuss ideas. And, while I would never want to discuss "riggedness" with someone (since I don't f**king think ANY site is rigged) I would like to know something about the SPECIFIC issue I brought forth which ONLY is about RNG's, and not "riggedness." [/ QUOTE ] Don't you just hate flamers
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#25
01-12-2006, 12:33 AM
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Re: Pokerstars RNG (not a rigged post)
The big flaw with your post is that you're saying something is wrong with the RNG, but it's not intentional. The reason being that people seem to get more bad beats on pokerstars than other places. Here's the problem though: Unless the bad beats are intentional(ie. Pokerstars gives certain people more bad beats than others), then by your own words, your friends should be giving as many bad beats as they are receiving. Of course, good players will give less bad beats than bad ones because they are more likely to put their chips in with the best of it, but even good players need those 2 outers.
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#26
01-12-2006, 01:08 AM
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Re: Pokerstars RNG (not a rigged post)
Jackaaron -
If you can't see the absurdity of your post, then you shouldn't be posting in this forum in the first place. I can't believe you "corrected" him with "unintentional rigging" doesn't exist, when it was clear as day that he was mocking you. 2+2 should just auto-ban posters that bitch about rigging and "bad downswings" that are less than 10k hands.
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#27
01-12-2006, 01:31 AM
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Re: Pokerstars RNG (not a rigged post)
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Jackaaron - If you can't see the absurdity of your post, then you shouldn't be posting in this forum in the first place. I can't believe you "corrected" him with "unintentional rigging" doesn't exist, when it was clear as day that he was mocking you. 2+2 should just auto-ban posters that bitch about rigging and "bad downswings" that are less than 10k hands. [/ QUOTE ] They pretty much do
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#28
01-12-2006, 02:54 AM
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Re: Pokerstars RNG (not a rigged post)
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It's just a simple question, why do 2+2ers flame more than any other forum? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Because this is probably one of the most intelligent poker forums out there. If we agreed or supported your OP, we wouldn't be above other forums. If you don't like it, go post at your other forums where you will get responses like "Yeah! Me too! My pocket aces lost, it's totally rigged!" Yes, I know, you didn't say it was rigged. Time to move on.
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#29
01-12-2006, 11:59 AM
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Re: Pokerstars RNG (not a rigged post)
OP, if it makes you feel any better, I definitely get bad beats more frequently on Stars than anywhere else. After playing there and at many other sites for well over a year, I really don't think I'm imagining it anymore.
I don't think it's rigged in favor of any particular players, but I do think there's something in the software that favors the underdog of any given situation.
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