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Old 04-05-2006, 07:53 AM
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Default How did this guy win the tournament? (LC, bad beat, site is rigged)

Please don't flame me for this. I originally posted this in the BBV forum, because villain's calls were so fishy I thought it ws a curiosity. This hand occurred early in the tournament. However, villain (jtenute28) won the tournament (134 runners). This was a freezout PLHE tournament. Does this guy have the random number generator cracked? Was he drunk. How does someone so bad win a tournament? This looks fishy in more ways than one.

$30 PLHE MTT
Paradise Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em Tourney(10 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB (t950)
Hero (t2125)
UTG (t4230)
UTG+1 (t4320)
UTG+2 (t3370)
MP1 (t1785)
MP2 (t3105)
MP3 (t935)
CO (t1180)
Button (t2125)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of t25.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t50, MP2 calls t50, MP3 calls t50, CO calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t375</font>, UTG+1 calls t350, MP1 folds, MP2 calls t350, MP3 folds, CO folds, SB folds.

Flop: (t1400) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t3920</font>, MP2 folds, Hero calls t325.

Turn: (t7045) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t7045) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t7045

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Qs Qc (one pair, queens).
UTG+1 has 3s 5c (straight, five high).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins t7045. </font>
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Old 04-05-2006, 07:56 AM
Black winter day Black winter day is offline
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Default Re: How did this guy win the tournament? (LC, bad beat, site is rigged)

Those bluff donkeys either go bust very early or get a pile of chips and bluff their way to the top.

His postflop could be interpeted either way, but preflop is just horrible.
Althought, the buy-in is 30$, so he may simply not care at first.
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Old 04-05-2006, 08:00 AM
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Default Re: How did this guy win the tournament? (LC, bad beat, site is rigged)

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Those bluff donkeys either go bust very early or get a pile of chips and bluff their way to the top.

His postflop could be interpeted either way, but preflop is just horrible.
Althought, the buy-in is 30$, so he may simply not care at first.

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His flop raise is not a bluff. There was 4200 in the pot and I needed to call 325.
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Old 04-05-2006, 08:03 AM
Black winter day Black winter day is offline
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Default Re: How did this guy win the tournament? (LC, bad beat, site is rigged)

Really, didn't notice he has you covered my much.
Then the only explanation, that he just didn't care about the 30$.
Nobody is that bad.
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Old 04-05-2006, 08:07 AM
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Default Re: How did this guy win the tournament? (LC, bad beat, site is rigged)

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Really, didn't notice he has you covered my much.
Then the only explanation, that he just didn't care about the 30$.
Nobody is that bad.

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I don't want to seem like a paranoid online poker is rigged type, but could he have the random number generation cracked?
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Old 04-05-2006, 08:12 AM
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Default Re: How did this guy win the tournament? (LC, bad beat, site is rigged

I thought 'dise had the most legit card generater- audited by PWC and everything?

I lost the $3rebuy last night after 3.5hours when my QQ lost to Q6.....I guess QQ's are not all that.
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Old 04-05-2006, 09:41 AM
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Default Re: How did this guy win the tournament? (LC, bad beat, site is rigged)

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Really, didn't notice he has you covered my much.
Then the only explanation, that he just didn't care about the 30$.
Nobody is that bad.

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I don't want to seem like a paranoid online poker is rigged type, but could he have the random number generation cracked?

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betgo, you have over 6k posts and you're actually writing something like that?

the guy clearly sucks at poker, he saw that he had a "straight draw" and he chased it down. a terrible player still has a chance to win. maybe you were 1/50 to win and he was 1/250, but he still has a chance.
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Old 04-05-2006, 02:07 PM
Karakaz Karakaz is offline
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Default Re: How did this guy win the tournament? (LC, bad beat, site is rigged)

No. And you're a fish. Nicely done pushing a hand that is beat 99/100.
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Old 04-05-2006, 08:06 AM
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Default Re: How did this guy win the tournament? (LC, bad beat, site is rigged)

It's only 1 hand. You made the assumption that he may have the RNG cracked. If that's the case, based on this one hand, then there are a bunch of idiots who have the RNG cracked. If it's more than 1 hand that led you to that possible conclusion, then post more hand examples. This guy was just a plain donkey, maybe didn't care if he went bust, time to get some sleep, drunk like you said, etc...
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Old 04-05-2006, 09:58 AM
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Default Re: How did this guy win the tournament? (LC, bad beat, site is rigged)

Last night, at a $20 rebuy, I pumped chip leader all in preflop with AA and he called with KoQo. It was early on in the tournmanet and I am still confounded as to why he would let his lead go with such small blinds. I thought he had the # generator cracked too, but then I won the hand.

There are all sorts of explanations, the simplest being that this guy is a fucko. Also, there are some card sites that are EASILY more identifiable as "rigged" than others. I'm not sure where "Paradise Poker" stands here.
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