QQ Preflop

[quarkncover]

First villain is tilt-shoving, he has two cards.

Second villain just won a large pot with top and bottom, he is loose passive and does not seem particularly good, this is the first time he has made this sort of a move preflop and I am about 70% sure he is making an isolation raise with a somewhat marginal hand.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB ($77.05)
Hero ($31.45)
UTG ($12.15)
Button ($34)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $12.15</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $24.05</font>, Hero shoves or waits for a better spot?

[aces_dad]

If you're that sure SB's got a marginal hand (meaning one you're well ahead of) you have to push here. Even if you're slightly ahead of his AK UTG's overlay makes this a profitable situation.

[quarkncover]

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If you're that sure SB's got a marginal hand (meaning one you're well ahead of) you have to push here. Even if you're slightly ahead of his AK UTG's overlay makes this a profitable situation.

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Well, not super marginal. I put a hand range into pokerstove and this is what I came up with:

7,171,333 games 18.360 secs 390,595 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 32.3435 % 31.52% 00.82% { TT+, ATs+, KQs, AdKh, AQo-ATo, KQo }
Hand 2: 16.1691 % 15.84% 00.33% { random }
Hand 3: 51.4874 % 50.78% 00.71% { QQ }

[quarkncover]

Any comments after the equity analysis by pokerstove? I am confident this is an accurate hand range.

[Ness]

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Any comments after the equity analysis by pokerstove? I am confident this is an accurate hand range.

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Quark-

For me, seeing what pokerstove has to say is irrelevant. If you are confident you have the best hand, based on your read, shove it in the middle.

Regards,

NESS

[aces_dad]

Given UTG's overlay the hand range you provided confirms the earlier comments this is a profitable push.

[cbloom]

The only thing I wonder about is -

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he does not seem particularly good, ... he is making an isolation raise with a somewhat marginal hand.


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Guys who aren't good don't know what an "isolation raise" is. If your read is good, go for it, but SB probably has some kind of hand, and obviously he calls your small range. It's probably still a push because of the dead money from the first guy, but I think your range for SB is too big. Take out KQ and AT.

[djoyce003]

easy shove

[4_2_it]

Based on your read, push it.

[DemonDeac]

def push this shiznat

i mean, its goin in on the flop barring a hideous flop, right?