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quarkncover 03-09-2006 06:39 PM

QQ Preflop
 
First villain is tilt-shoving, he has two cards.

Second villain just won a large pot with top and bottom, he is loose passive and does not seem particularly good, this is the first time he has made this sort of a move preflop and I am about 70% sure he is making an isolation raise with a somewhat marginal hand.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB ($77.05)
Hero ($31.45)
UTG ($12.15)
Button ($34)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $12.15</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $24.05</font>, Hero shoves or waits for a better spot?

aces_dad 03-09-2006 06:47 PM

Re: QQ Preflop
 
If you're that sure SB's got a marginal hand (meaning one you're well ahead of) you have to push here. Even if you're slightly ahead of his AK UTG's overlay makes this a profitable situation.

djoyce003 03-09-2006 06:47 PM

Re: QQ Preflop
 
easy shove

4_2_it 03-09-2006 06:49 PM

Re: QQ Preflop
 
Based on your read, push it.

DemonDeac 03-09-2006 06:49 PM

Re: QQ Preflop
 
def push this shiznat

i mean, its goin in on the flop barring a hideous flop, right?

Ra_ 03-09-2006 06:49 PM

Re: QQ Preflop
 
If you trust your read, you have to go in here.

on the other hand, why didn't he just raise 10 more to cover you too? if he seems like the kind of player that puts thoughts into the size of his raises it might be a warning but i still don't think you can get away.

Dante1126 03-09-2006 06:50 PM

Re: QQ Preflop
 
Given your read, its a call. Just pray and overcard doesn't pair one of their likely holdings.

quarkncover 03-09-2006 07:00 PM

Re: QQ Preflop
 
[ QUOTE ]
If you're that sure SB's got a marginal hand (meaning one you're well ahead of) you have to push here. Even if you're slightly ahead of his AK UTG's overlay makes this a profitable situation.

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, not super marginal. I put a hand range into pokerstove and this is what I came up with:

7,171,333 games 18.360 secs 390,595 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 32.3435 % 31.52% 00.82% { TT+, ATs+, KQs, AdKh, AQo-ATo, KQo }
Hand 2: 16.1691 % 15.84% 00.33% { random }
Hand 3: 51.4874 % 50.78% 00.71% { QQ }

sigurrostyp 03-09-2006 07:03 PM

Re: QQ Preflop
 
Put your money in here with the read you have made

quarkncover 03-09-2006 07:08 PM

Re: QQ Preflop
 
Any comments after the equity analysis by pokerstove? I am confident this is an accurate hand range.


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