(24) tough hand on bubble with 1010...call shove?

[Mariogs379]

Full Tilt Poker Game #2881662403: $22 + $2 Sit & Go (Turbo) (21986655), Table 1 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:34:44 ET - 2007/07/07
Seat 2: ooMONEYoo (2,560)
Seat 6: mbayerl (5,295)
Seat 8: Cheque Magnet (3,050)
Seat 9: Hero (2,595)
Hero posts the small blind of 60
ooMONEYoo posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ts Tc]
mbayerl folds
Cheque Magnet raises to 3,050, and is all in
Hero...

[Mariogs379]

according to sngpt, villain has to shove very loose for me to call with 1010
are you folding JJ...
it all depends on villain's range, what do you think?
QQ = instacall for me

[KyleH186]

Weird hand. This may be completely wrong, but for some reason I think this is a call. Not because of shove ranges though. To me it seems like a situation where the range is capped at 99, or AJs. If you had AQ+, or 10s+, why would you shove into only one person with the blinds as small as they are. I think this becomes a read situation, and low pocket pairs, Ax lower than 10 become a lot more likely than any hand that has you beat.


edit: I read the hand history wrong....hes shoving into two people? That makes things a little weirder. It honestly doesn't seem like he wants a call here with such a huge raise. Would someone even be right to shove qj or qk in his spot? I really think you are ahead of his range here.

[Mariogs379]

the thing is i'm not worried about being ahead of his range
i'm definitely ahead of his range here
if he's shoving 44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+ I'm raping his range but sngpt says to only call with JJ+...
see what i mean?

[KyleH186]

I dunno if you can even do this on SNGPT, but can you eliminate QQ, KK, AA, AKo, AKs, and maybe even JJ from his range? Does it make 10 10 a call then?

[kyro]

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I dunno if you can even do this on SNGPT, but can you eliminate QQ, KK, AA, AKo, AKs, and maybe even JJ from his range? Does it make 10 10 a call then?

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You should be able to. I'd keep JJ in there but probably throw out AA/KK and possibly QQ. I would probably call but I'm not sure of it.

[ADLinden]

i fold

[AMT]

this is a close call IMO. if youve seen him making big opening raises/QQ+ could be in his range im more likely to fold but in game likely a call.