[bruce]

If we know Ansky will reraise and old guy calls we have an easy call.

What happens if we call and Ansky folds? We're getting a lousy price on our call and we'll probably have a difficult turn decision to make if a club doen't come. Believing that old person will bet too little on the turn, thus giving
us a reason to call if Ansky folds doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

Bruce