[Harv72b]

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harv,

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Which is why that is untrue. If I'm in a pot vs. a terrible loose/passive and an ABC TAG, I'm betting that flop 100% of the time with AJ, AT, even KQ. Not because I believe my hand is better than the TAG's (assuming he coldcalled, which by the way, is not a mark of a good TAG), but because I believe I have a value bet vs. the bad player and because I believe this will cause the ABC TAG to fold a better, non-paired hand, sometimes even a small PP.

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i think that is a bad play. ace-high is usually no good here, and you need to improve by the river because the loose guy will chase you down and if the good player has something, you will be charged the maxiumum. i think reverse implied odds say fold. i'm assuming a typical game where a guy will go to the river with any draw, or stay to the showdown with any pair. a bet there is throwing away money.

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Preflop: Loose/terrible limps, I raise with KJo, so-so TAG coldcalls on the button, folded around to limper who calls.

Flop: T74 rainbow. Limper checks, I bet, so-so TAG thinks it over for a few seconds and folds his AQo/55/whatever he's decided is no good anymore, limper calls.

Turn: A of purple horseshoes. Limper checks, I bet, limper folds.

Alternately:

Turn: another 7. Limper checks and I check through. River is a 2, checked through and MHIG vs. limper's J9o.

You get the idea...and that's just with K high. With ace high, even when I'm called on the flop and, against some players, on the turn, my hand is often good vs. the loose/terrible player. And even when it isn't, I can usually win by spiking a pair on the turn or river.

If the tight player calls or raises the flop bet, as I said, I'm out on the turn UI...because I know he's got a better hand than I do.