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TC,

Thanks for making this post, and I agree completely that HIV and shaundeeb are scum if what you post is true, plus so is togni.

However, the following makes you seem not exactly scum-free yourself:

"Tongni would sit in the game using HIV's account and bait people into taking shots and absolutely destroy them. At the time, I didn't think anything of it, since I didn't think they'd specifically target nath and gildwulf."

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In his defense (and obviously I'm biased) it's rather likely he didn't really consider the implications until they tried it on someone he knew. FWIW when I read this sentence I took it to mean tongni would just be playing on HIV's account, not that they would actively be setting up matches, or goading people into taking a shot.

Can we say there's a difference between

a)Tongni playing on HIV's account,
b)Tongni playing on HIV's account and, say, posting an NVG or BBV thread entitled "HIV SITTING AT 1K/2K STARS GOGOGOGOGO",
and c)Tongni playing on HIV's account and having HIV actively set up HU matches vs. him?

a) doesn't seem too scummy, but b) and c) pretty clearly are. It's quite possible at first, I'd think, to assume or give them the benefit of the doubt they just meant a) until it became clear that it was otherwise.