[bilbo-san]

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you aren't Cbetting at more than 2 villains are you????

Don't you might as well light money on fire.


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You're joking right? If one raises with QQ and get 3 callers you suggest one should CHECK the flop!?

You might as well muck preflop. That is TERRIBLE advice. You realise that QQ (or JJ or TT) is probably still the best hand most of the time, right?

I'll check UNIMPROVED overs if I get 3 callers. But a pair!? You assume an opponent always flops a better pair everytime you get 3 callers? Wow, you must play with some serious heaters.

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A CB is when we are bluffing - It is financial suicide to bluff at more than 2 villains.

If the flop is good and we have say QQ then I'm not checking the flop I am *value betting*

If I have QQ and the board comes A high with no draw for me and there are 3+ other villains out there I am dropping my ladies faster than you can say "losing one pair hand" if I feel frisky I MIGHT throw out a flop bet if it's checked to me - but invariably I won't.

If I raise with QQ preflop I make a raise that is designed to get me HU on the flop - depending on the table I'm at it might be 4BB 6BB 8BB whatever it takes - if I still get 3 callers then I'm pretty freaking sure that my QQ is no good.

I don't autopilot my bet amounts - they are table specific. 3 callers to any one pair hand thats UI on the flop I think is always bad news whatever pair you have.

QQ is ~60% to win vs 3 random hands preflop.

If my (suitably hefty)pfr gets three callers you can bet the farm that they have better than random hands and my pretty looking one pair hands equity has just fallen through the floor.

I still think that one should not Continuation Bet(bluff) at ANY flop if all you have is an unimproved pair and your preflop raise gets 3 or more callers.

I would rather set fire to my money.

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Puuuuuuullllease.

QQ is 60% to win vs 3. random hands that call all the way to the river.

Sooo...

1)You win more often than the other 3 callers
2)Your winrate increases dramatically if you bet the flop and 1 (or 2) opponents fold.

If you are checking A and K flops you may as well turn your cards face up. And you already ARE lighting your money on fire, so don't bother with your metaphors.

Do you check/fold KK when an A flops? What's the difference???

People calling preflop raises are VERY often holding speculative hands that they will be more than happy to fold when an A flops.