Hand from Super Thursday; what hands do you put villain on here?
 

NL Texas Hold'em Trny:22082271 Level:2 Blinds(30/60) - Thursday, April 13, 21:34:37 ET 2006
Table Super Thursday(659459) Table #34 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: SepulTribe ( $4961 )
Seat 2: Strumey ( $2457 )
Seat 3: rizzle ( $6235 )
Seat 4: Lowset ( $6196 )
Seat 5: brewinhops ( $4520 )
Seat 6: Follldit ( $11710 )
Seat 7: tyrone_brown ( $7780 )
Seat 8: buckohfive ( $6996 )
Seat 9: CALLthatDRAW ( $6530 )
Seat 10: FoldItAll ( $2455 )
Trny:22082271 Level:2
Blinds(30/60)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to brewinhops [ Ks Kh ]
FoldItAll calls [60].
SepulTribe folds.
Strumey calls [60].
rizzle calls [60].
Lowset folds.
brewinhops raises [240].
Follldit folds.
tyrone_brown folds.
buckohfive calls [210].
CALLthatDRAW folds.
FoldItAll calls [180].
Strumey calls [180].
rizzle calls [180].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jd, 8s, 2h ]
buckohfive checks.
FoldItAll checks.
Strumey checks.
rizzle bets [650].

Only played an orbit or two at this table. Villain came from my last table and is very tight. What do you put him on and what is your course of action?

Re: Hand from Super Thursday; what hands do you put villain on here?
 

Most likely: T9s, JT, QJ, KJ, AJ
Unlikely, but in his range: 88, 22

In any case, there's a few things about this hand I'd like to comment on:

1. Raise way more PF
2. This flop is one of the easiest pushes over

Re: Hand from Super Thursday; what hands do you put villain on here?
 

I think your range is too wide for villain here. He was like 2/32 VP$IP if that makes a difference. I agree bad pf raise and beautiful flop.

Re: Hand from Super Thursday; what hands do you put villain on here?
 

Well I doubt very much QQ-AA is in his range.

I further doubt that JJ is in his range, but this is certainly more likely than the above.

Of the TJ-AJ range, obviously AJ is the most likely, tapering off as you approach TJ. As for T9, he probably doesn't bet into this field with that hand.

Were you questioning pushing at this point in the hand or were you just trying to assign a range to Villain as an excercise? I'm confused of the purpose of this thread.

Re: Hand from Super Thursday; what hands do you put villain on here?
 

Either top pair or straight draw. There's enough money in the middle that I am pushing this and hoping rizzle comes along.

And if you ran into a set, well, that just sucks. I almost never worry about running into a set -- I see that as an act of God.

Re: Hand from Super Thursday; what hands do you put villain on here?
 

More for excercise purposes. I want to see what you guys are thinking in this situation.

Re: Hand from Super Thursday; what hands do you put villain on here?
 

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Either top pair or straight draw. There's enough money in the middle that I am pushing this and hoping rizzle comes along.

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Hmmm... I'm pushing this and hoping rizzle folds, but that's just me.

Re: Hand from Super Thursday; what hands do you put villain on here?
 

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Either top pair or straight draw. There's enough money in the middle that I am pushing this and hoping rizzle comes along.

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Hmmm... I'm pushing this and hoping rizzle folds, but that's just me.

[/ QUOTE ] Do you mean that, if the villian has AJ or T9, you would still prefer that he fold? Or do you mean that you are just hoping that your hand is good?

Re: Hand from Super Thursday; what hands do you put villain on here?
 

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Either top pair or straight draw. There's enough money in the middle that I am pushing this and hoping rizzle comes along.

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Hmmm... I'm pushing this and hoping rizzle folds, but that's just me.

[/ QUOTE ] Do you mean that, if the villian has AJ or T9, you would still prefer that he fold? Or do you mean that you are just hoping that your hand is good?

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Both, actually. But I was stressing the first point, really. I'd rather surrender some equity here for the sake of increasing my stack by about 50% without a showdown.

Re: Hand from Super Thursday; what hands do you put villain on here?
 

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Either top pair or straight draw. There's enough money in the middle that I am pushing this and hoping rizzle comes along.

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Hmmm... I'm pushing this and hoping rizzle folds, but that's just me.

[/ QUOTE ] Do you mean that, if the villian has AJ or T9, you would still prefer that he fold? Or do you mean that you are just hoping that your hand is good?

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Both, actually. But I was stressing the first point, really. I'd rather surrender some equity here for the sake of increasing my stack by about 50% without a showdown.

[/ QUOTE ] Oh man, are you going to force me to do the math? You have to know how wrong that is. Please just admit it, and don't make me break out the PokerStove.