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AlexB182 08-22-2007 07:01 AM

NL50: River completes FD and brings overcard, villain open pushes
 
Villain is new to the table, only his fourth hand. Haven't played with him before. I guess from the way he c/c on flop and turn, his most probable hand is some kind of draw, but if he's bad he could even play TPGK like that. Problem is, I don't see any hands I beat here, except perhaps for a busted OESD. Still, that open push looks kind of suspicious to me.
Another problem: I don't think the odds are making a river call here +EV...
Any comments welcome!

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($50.95)
BB ($20)
UTG ($22)
UTG+1 ($9.90)
MP1 ($48.75)
MP2 ($67.05)
MP3 ($50.75)
CO ($51.25)
Hero ($53.10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.85</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls $2.35.

Flop: ($6.45) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5.75</font>, MP3 calls $5.75.

Turn: ($17.95) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $13</font>, MP3 calls $13.

River: ($43.95) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $29.15 (All-In)</font>, Hero ?

bluffingguus 08-22-2007 08:16 AM

Re: NL50: River completes FD and brings overcard, villain open pushes
 
Hard to say what he has without reads, but would be an easy fold for me against almost any villain. Seems like he's drawing to a flush with A? and just hit. Or just has AK or KQ. Again, hard to say without reads.

CazicT 08-22-2007 10:04 AM

Re: NL50: River completes FD and brings overcard, villain open pushes
 
This feels very much like a flush. But even if it isn't, it is probably some other monster that beats you like a set or 2 pair.

If this guy bluffed with OESD well congrats to him on a fine play.

Fold.

a poker student 08-22-2007 10:15 AM

Re: NL50: River completes FD and brings overcard, villain open pushes
 
I'd fold. If he was bluffing he's maybe going to show his cards anyway, and I will pat him on the back.

Perhaps I would not bet on the turn. He called your flop-bet, saying he is going to call your &lt;pot turn bet too if he is on a flush-draw. Or I would bet 1.5 pot on the turn.

Anyway I'm a newbie, so comments are welcome but don't take my line too seriously.

AlexB182 08-22-2007 10:23 AM

Re: NL50: River completes FD and brings overcard, villain open pushes
 
Not betting the turn is no option, if he is drawing(what I put him on, too), we have to make him pay for it.
Anyone betting pot size here on turn? Might work out.
Anyone shoving here? Problem: when he has a flush draw with an overcard(like AdTd) we are only a 53 to 47 favourite...

MMa7 08-22-2007 10:33 AM

Re: NL50: River completes FD and brings overcard, villain open pushes
 
We're actually 70-30 favourite on the turn if he has an overcard along with the flush draw.

Anyway he was either chasing that flush or had as beat all the way.

AlexB182 08-22-2007 10:35 AM

Re: NL50: River completes FD and brings overcard, villain open pushes
 
Ah, right. I made the sim for the situation on the flop. My bad.

seki 08-22-2007 01:06 PM

Re: NL50: River completes FD and brings overcard, villain open pushes
 
[ QUOTE ]
This feels very much like a flush. But even if it isn't, it is probably some other monster that beats you like a set or 2 pair.

If this guy bluffed with OESD well congrats to him on a fine play.

Fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

CalledDownLight 08-22-2007 03:12 PM

Re: NL50: River completes FD and brings overcard, villain open pushes
 
You beat nothing.

AlexB182 08-22-2007 03:13 PM

Re: NL50: River completes FD and brings overcard, villain open pushes
 
Ok, thank you all guys. We seem to all have the same opinon.


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