AJs - slowplay wrong?
 

I think, I could have won more by not slowplaying the turn?
Do I have to raise the flop?
stats: SB: 61/30/AF:1.7; UTG: 59/9/AF:2.2


Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.5SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3.75BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6.75BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, UTG calls, SB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 18.75BB

Re: AJs - slowplay wrong?
 

3bet pf. i want to say raise the flop, but we have a relative monster here and the pot is tiny. the turn, once again has a relatively small pot so i don't hate it, but the one extra bet we go for from UTG could be outweighed by the times this guy will go apeshit with AK on the turn AND river.

Re: AJs - slowplay wrong?
 

Definately 3 bet preflop.

I like waiting to the turn to raise here. On the turn this a great board for you because there are alot of "second best" hands that the SB can have. Like James said your gonna get action on the turn and river in these situations.

Re: AJs - slowplay wrong?
 

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3bet pf. i want to say raise the flop, but we have a relative monster here and the pot is tiny. the turn, once again has a relatively small pot so i don't hate it, but the one extra bet we go for from UTG could be outweighed by the times this guy will go apeshit with AK on the turn AND river.

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The other reason to raise the turn is that a diamond river may kill your action.

Also, the preflop 3-bet is just because the SB's raising range is so wide (given his stats), right? Against a more typical opponent, I think a call is just fine.

-McGee

Re: AJs - slowplay wrong?
 

3-bet preflop.

Raise the flop.

Raise the turn.

gogogogogogogogogogogogo

Re: AJs - slowplay wrong?
 

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Do I have to raise the flop?


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You don't have to, but you are probably ahead, and you have the biggest draw, and even if you aren't you probably have enough pot equity to make the raise right.

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I think, I could have won more by not slowplaying the turn?


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Maybe, maybe not, If you raise the turn, and then get threebet, you could smoothcall and you might have won more after the river action.

You would definately win more by raising the turn if a diamond comes on the river, which would kill your action.

Re: AJs - slowplay wrong?
 

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3-bet preflop.

Raise the flop.

Raise the turn.

gogogogogogogogogogogogo

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Re: AJs - slowplay wrong?
 

When you're holding a monster in a 3-way pot vs. a 61/30/1.7 &amp; a 59/9/2.2, slowplaying is always wrong. And yes, 3bet preflop for value.

Re: AJs - slowplay wrong?
 

I didn't notice the reads at first. Yeah, you've left a great many bets on the table.

Re: AJs - slowplay wrong?
 

I like raising the flop. It's your biggest chance to get MP to coldcall and change the betting dynamic such that it's easier for them to both call you down or whatever else good happens.