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bugstud 05-23-2006 04:20 AM

hand vs nate 30 short wynn
 
We are currently playing 4 handed. I have opened the SB every time it has been folded to me in the SB. I have red sevens and open, and nate 3 bets for the first time. I decided to just call.

Flop comes A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

what lines should I consider?

True 05-23-2006 04:40 AM

Re: hand vs nate 30 short wynn
 
c/c b/c c/r.

c/ring this flop is probably better since there are a tonne of draws, checking this river is also probably quite bad, but I guess works for all A-x which is probably the majority of his range.

True

cartman 05-23-2006 04:41 AM

Re: hand vs nate 30 short wynn
 
Checkraise the flop is the clear choice in my opinion.

True 05-23-2006 04:42 AM

Re: hand vs nate 30 short wynn
 
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Checkraise the flop is the clear choice in my opinion.

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yeh I thought this as soon as I posted, so many draws he can't give you credit for a hand.

True

tolbiny 05-23-2006 04:42 AM

Re: hand vs nate 30 short wynn
 
I've never actually played against nate-

I think its best to go straightforward against him, tricky lines like sudden donk bets on the turn so you can three bet will either have him freezing up and deciding to see showdown, or folding to the three bet. I would say check call the flop and then c/r the turn and bet river, its a good line because, well, its a good line.

Kwaz 05-23-2006 06:02 AM

Re: hand vs nate 30 short wynn
 
c/r flop is the easy winner.

DeathDonkey 05-23-2006 06:58 AM

Re: hand vs nate 30 short wynn
 
First instinct is flop CR, turn bet, river CR, depending on turn/river cards of course. A decent alternative is check/call checkraise. But that has some problems like when he doesn't have an ace and checks the turn. Check/call donk is an option but I really never like that one unless you do it with weak hands a lot.

-DeathDonkey

Entity 05-23-2006 09:30 AM

Re: hand vs nate 30 short wynn
 
Checkraise.

Jeffage 05-23-2006 09:31 AM

Re: hand vs nate 30 short wynn
 
I like check-bet-call, check-bet-raise myself.

Jeff

Lost_My_Stink 05-23-2006 09:34 AM

Re: hand vs nate 30 short wynn
 
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First instinct is flop CR, turn bet, river CR, depending on turn/river cards of course. A decent alternative is check/call checkraise.
-DeathDonkey

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Can someone please help me understand the river chk-raise. Are people going to bet enough times to make up for the times you get chked behind?


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