How many 2-4 3-6 hands to start to make a profit?
 

After reviewing some PP 2-4 and 3-6 limit plays from yesterday, I noticed several things:
1. Noone actually seemed to win much at all if anything over all.
2. The best anyone seemed to be doing was to be up $20 or eventually deplete their roll.

3. The blinds seemed to be taking everyone's roll.

Considering that your paying B+BB every round, isn't there a 'point of no profit' in the sense that all you're really doing is paying blinds and not winning enough to cover them?
I played tight but found myself wanting to play looser just because of all the blinds I was forking out for deuces and fours..and similar junk.

Thanks in adance,
Darth Holdem [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Re: How many 2-4 3-6 hands to start to make a profit?
 

Wow...

It may be that you need to do a lot of reading (books and this board) and not really that much playing in order to get better. An hour reading these boards can be worth about a week's worth of play for a beginning LHE player.

Re: How many 2-4 3-6 hands to start to make a profit?
 

2) after how long? typically, a good player brings in 2BB/100 hands playing at one table, and given 2/4 at 60 hands an hour, that is $5/hr.

"point of no profit" is vague. in regards to skill of your opponents, there is a PONP: if your opponents are all slightly worse than you, you'll break even; if they are all equal, then you all will lose over time. What do you mean?

you cannot play more hands simlpy because of the blinds, rather, only when the situation warrants it.

Elaborate on your post more and maybe someone will give a worthwhile answer.

Re: How many 2-4 3-6 hands to start to make a profit?
 

After how long - about 2.5 hours.

So - If you're a good player you should expect to make $5/hr?
I believe you but it sure seems like a hard living!

Thanks for your contructive feedback. I am new as you can tell and downloaded poker tracker which pointed out my personal mistakes.

Re: How many 2-4 3-6 hands to start to make a profit?
 

I already have made my contribution to the book writing Duo.
Thanks for the advice. You're correct about reading and the value of this site.

Thanks,
Darth Holdem

Re: How many 2-4 3-6 hands to start to make a profit?
 

Hi,
Sorry for another silly question, but does the fact that a good player bring in 2BB/100 hands mean that the only people making any money at poker are playing at least $20BB?

Thanks,
Darth Holdem

Re: How many 2-4 3-6 hands to start to make a profit?
 

I don't understand this thread.

Re: How many 2-4 3-6 hands to start to make a profit?
 

I think you need to lurk a little longer.

Re: How many 2-4 3-6 hands to start to make a profit?
 

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I think you need to lurk a little longer.

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Re: How many 2-4 3-6 hands to start to make a profit?
 

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Hi,
Sorry for another silly question, but does the fact that a good player bring in 2BB/100 hands mean that the only people making any money at poker are playing at least $20BB?

Thanks,
Darth Holdem

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No, i'm not sure what else you want. Multi-tabling is possible thus more hands/hour. BTW 2BB/100 is an amazing pace for a begginer, don't expect this right away especially playing online. Poker is all about long term trends not short term results; you'll need tens of thousands of hands to determine your winrate.

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I think you need to lurk a little longer.

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I hope that wasn't directed at me... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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It wasn't.

Re: How many 2-4 3-6 hands to start to make a profit?
 

I play at $1/2 or $2/4 and past week i had 1.1BB/100hands profit, after 8000 hands at $2/4. Now I am 141 BB down.

Simply... I don´t know, how good players playing against ultra lucky maniac!They call anything and catch miracle, after miracle. Yesterday, one of them catch four of kind three times in one hour, twice against my three aces and full house.

One of my hand: $2/4

I have TT at CO, folded to me, I raise, button folded, SB maniac cold call, BB fold.

Flop T,2,K rainbow ...nice

I bet, Maniac raise..(this is his standart bluff play, his stats are 78/5/ and he almost always bet or raise flop.)
I CALL ... i want his bet on Turn.If i raise he check in turn.

Turn is 6

I check, maniac BET, I raise, he reraise ... uups ... he had KK..???? I call

River 4

I check, he bet, I call.

Maniac had 35o for a straight.



I have around 2000 hands with that player.He have profit 24 BB/100hands

Re: How many 2-4 3-6 hands to start to make a profit?
 

IF you are new, then you don't have enough hands to make use of the stats. just stick to reviewing hands one at a time using the free trial version or pokergrader, and read this forum.

Re: How many 2-4 3-6 hands to start to make a profit?
 

I'm still learning 2/4, but I'm about at 1bb/100 now. At 350 hands per hour (multi-tabling), that's $14/hour. Not great, but at least it's in the green for the last two months. It took me around 40k hands to make the jump from a winning 0.50/1 player to a winning 2/4 player.

Re: How many 2-4 3-6 hands to start to make a profit?
 

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BTW 2BB/100 is an amazing pace for a begginer, don't expect this right away especially playing online. Poker is all about long term trends not short term results; you'll need tens of thousands of hands to determine your winrate.

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Amen

Re: How many 2-4 3-6 hands to start to make a profit?
 

I thought threads like this were saved for the god awful general poker forum.

Re: How many 2-4 3-6 hands to start to make a profit?
 

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I play at $1/2 or $2/4 and past week i had 1.1BB/100hands profit, after 8000 hands at $2/4. Now I am 141 BB down.

Simply... I don´t know, how good players playing against ultra lucky maniac!They call anything and catch miracle, after miracle. Yesterday, one of them catch four of kind three times in one hour, twice against my three aces and full house.

One of my hand: $2/4

I have TT at CO, folded to me, I raise, button folded, SB maniac cold call, BB fold.

Flop T,2,K rainbow ...nice

I bet, Maniac raise..(this is his standart bluff play, his stats are 78/5/ and he almost always bet or raise flop.)
I CALL ... i want his bet on Turn.If i raise he check in turn.

Turn is 6

I check, maniac BET, I raise, he reraise ... uups ... he had KK..???? I call

River 4

I check, he bet, I call.

Maniac had 35o for a straight.



I have around 2000 hands with that player.He have profit 24 BB/100hands

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You so badly misunderstand poker, it's not funny. This kind of attitude is why you lose. Try taking some responsibility for your bad play, that way you can improve. You won't get better if you continually blame 'luck' instead of your own faults.

Re: How many 2-4 3-6 hands to start to make a profit?
 

I'm locking this thread because I don't see anything good coming out of it.