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Greg Olden 07-20-2007 10:35 AM

FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
Ok I can no longer be silent on this issue. The FPP's you accumulate at Poker Stars are based on raked hands at the table. Rakeback is based on the percentage of money from a raked pot you WIN!

Why do people on here constantly compare the two and say one is equvilent to the other.

I AM sick and tired of it and you people are giving out false information.

FPP'S ARE NOT THE SAME AS RAKEBACK! [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

APerfect10 07-20-2007 10:38 AM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
Rakeback on most sites is calculated via MGR. Which is total rake taken from the hand divided by the number of players. So you are wrong.

sup_bro 07-20-2007 10:38 AM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
it is the same if u calculate it appropriately with the VALUE of the merchandise (or cash reward) u are getting....i am no math wiz but people have done the calculations....while it is TECHNICALLY not the same as rakeback, the equation puts it into a format that u can then compare apples to apples and see which has greater value....in other words as a supernova i get i think 32% of what would be rakeback on FT.....

darkcore 07-20-2007 10:39 AM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
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Rakeback on most sites is calculated via MGR. Which is total rake taken from the hand divided by the number of players. So you are wrong.

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Greg Olden 07-20-2007 10:40 AM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
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Rakeback on most sites is calculated via MGR. Which is total rake taken from the hand divided by the number of players. So you are wrong.

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NO, you are wrong,
I have played many sites and have calculated this, and have had numerous e-mails from suppport,
so you can eat a $#*! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

darkcore 07-20-2007 10:49 AM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
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Rakeback is based on the percentage of money from a raked pot you WIN!

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=0#Post7510298


What is MGR?: MGR stands for Monthly Gross Revenue. Gross Revenue" is calculated as the sum total of all Players' contribution to the rake less any bonuses or other promotional amounts given to Players, processing charges, charge backs, or any un-collectable revenue attributable to the Player. The higher your MGR the more money you will earn from rakeback. If your MGR is $1000 and your rakeback percent is 25% your rakeback would be $250.


How is MGR calculated: Different poker sites will figure your MGR in different ways. There are 3 different ways this is figured.


The first is called the dealt method. As long as you are dealt cards you will earn MGR on the hand (as long as the pot is raked). For example, if you are playing with 10 players at the table and all of them are dealt in and the pot is raked $1.50, you will earn 10/1.50 or 15 cents for this hand. Once again, you only have to be dealt in to earn MGR on the hand; you do not have to actually contribute to the pot. The formula for this is: ($ amount raked) /(amount of players dealt in) = MGR


The second method is average contributed. This means not only do you have to be dealt in, but you also have to contribute to the pot in some way (even if you fold the small blind). An example of this would be, if 10 players are dealt in the hand, but only 6 contribute to the pot (including you) and the pot is raked $3.00, you will earn 6/$3.00 or 50 cents in MGR. The formula for this is similar to the above: (($ amount raked) / Amount of players contributed to the pot) = MGR


The third method is weighted contributed. This means not only do you have to be dealt in, but, once again, you will have to contribute to the pot in some way. The difference between this method and the “average contributed” method above is that your MGR is figured in direct proportion to the amount of money you put in the pot. For example, 10 people are dealt in the hand and 8 of them contribute to the pot (including you), but after you have contributed $20 to the pot total, you fold on fourth street (along with 5 other players), 1 person folds on the turn, and 2 people see the showdown. The final pot is $240 and is raked $3. Since you contributed $20 to the $240 pot, you will earn $20 / $240 or 8.33% of the $3 rake, which is 24.99 cents. The formula is: (amount contributed to the pot / $ amount of pot ) * ($ amount raked) = MGR

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I AM sick and tired of it and you people are giving out false information.

[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

jafeather 07-20-2007 11:00 AM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
[ QUOTE ]
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Rakeback on most sites is calculated via MGR. Which is total rake taken from the hand divided by the number of players. So you are wrong.

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NO, you are wrong,
I have played many sites and have calculated this, and have had numerous e-mails from suppport,
so you can eat a $#*! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Could you please back this up by showing your math including the source of the numbers you are using in your math. Also please post these support e-mails.

Actually...please don't. This thread is stupid, and I am a lesser person for having wasted any time with it.

Greg Olden 07-20-2007 11:01 AM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
[ QUOTE ]
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Rakeback is based on the percentage of money from a raked pot you WIN!

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[ QUOTE ]

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=0#Post7510298


What is MGR?: MGR stands for Monthly Gross Revenue. Gross Revenue" is calculated as the sum total of all Players' contribution to the rake less any bonuses or other promotional amounts given to Players, processing charges, charge backs, or any un-collectable revenue attributable to the Player. The higher your MGR the more money you will earn from rakeback. If your MGR is $1000 and your rakeback percent is 25% your rakeback would be $250.


How is MGR calculated: Different poker sites will figure your MGR in different ways. There are 3 different ways this is figured.


The first is called the dealt method. As long as you are dealt cards you will earn MGR on the hand (as long as the pot is raked). For example, if you are playing with 10 players at the table and all of them are dealt in and the pot is raked $1.50, you will earn 10/1.50 or 15 cents for this hand. Once again, you only have to be dealt in to earn MGR on the hand; you do not have to actually contribute to the pot. The formula for this is: ($ amount raked) /(amount of players dealt in) = MGR


The second method is average contributed. This means not only do you have to be dealt in, but you also have to contribute to the pot in some way (even if you fold the small blind). An example of this would be, if 10 players are dealt in the hand, but only 6 contribute to the pot (including you) and the pot is raked $3.00, you will earn 6/$3.00 or 50 cents in MGR. The formula for this is similar to the above: (($ amount raked) / Amount of players contributed to the pot) = MGR


The third method is weighted contributed. This means not only do you have to be dealt in, but, once again, you will have to contribute to the pot in some way. The difference between this method and the “average contributed” method above is that your MGR is figured in direct proportion to the amount of money you put in the pot. For example, 10 people are dealt in the hand and 8 of them contribute to the pot (including you), but after you have contributed $20 to the pot total, you fold on fourth street (along with 5 other players), 1 person folds on the turn, and 2 people see the showdown. The final pot is $240 and is raked $3. Since you contributed $20 to the $240 pot, you will earn $20 / $240 or 8.33% of the $3 rake, which is 24.99 cents. The formula is: (amount contributed to the pot / $ amount of pot ) * ($ amount raked) = MGR

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I AM sick and tired of it and you people are giving out false information.

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[/ QUOTE ]you still are not making a strong point. We are both right, just leave it at that , I started this thread by the way , so let me run it how I feel fit, Thanks [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

APerfect10 07-20-2007 11:04 AM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
Um, you could never win a hand and still get your rakeback because IT IS based on MGR.

You are right though, its your thread so its your right to distribute false information. Ok...

Thremp 07-20-2007 11:07 AM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
Jesus. Ban?

Josem 07-20-2007 11:12 AM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
[ QUOTE ]
Jesus. Ban!

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FYP. No doubt about this. OP is a muppet.

Greg Olden 07-20-2007 11:19 AM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
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Um, you could never win a hand and still get your rakeback because IT IS based on MGR.

You are right though, its your thread so its your right to distribute false information. Ok...

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Oh my lord, do you know what an FPP entails??
Silver memeber, Gold member, SuperNova??? they are all different accumulating rates in whihc you get a CASH EQUVILNET, RAKE BACK DOESNT WORK THAT WAY!!!!


THERE ARE DIFFERENT, why is it so hard for some of you to see that?

sonneti 07-20-2007 11:31 AM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Um, you could never win a hand and still get your rakeback because IT IS based on MGR.

You are right though, its your thread so its your right to distribute false information. Ok...

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Oh my lord, do you know what an FPP entails??
Silver memeber, Gold member, SuperNova??? they are all different accumulating rates in whihc you get a CASH EQUVILNET, RAKE BACK DOESNT WORK THAT WAY!!!!


THERE ARE DIFFERENT, why is it so hard for some of you to see that?

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http://www.johntp.com/wp-content/upl...topposting.jpg

CountingMyOuts 07-20-2007 11:36 AM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
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Jesus. Ban?

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Past due, also.

liquidboss 07-20-2007 11:55 AM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
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Rakeback is based on the percentage of money from a raked pot you WIN!

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You are wrong, that is all...

PBJaxx 07-20-2007 12:00 PM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
[ QUOTE ]
Oh my lord, do you know what an FPP entails??
Silver memeber, Gold member, SuperNova??? they are all different accumulating rates in whihc you get a CASH EQUVILNET, RAKE BACK DOESNT WORK THAT WAY!!!!


THERE ARE DIFFERENT, why is it so hard for some of you to see that?

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A 4-year old can see that they are different. The arguments are that they are similar or reasonably close to equivilent.

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The FPP's you accumulate at Poker Stars are based on raked hands at the table. Rakeback is based on the percentage of money from a raked pot you WIN!

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Everyone's problem is that you started a screaming/angry thread with INCORRECT info. This varies from site to site, yada...lol

numbnuts007 07-20-2007 12:05 PM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
FPP = Money for playing poker = Rakeback

therefore

FPP = Rakeback

Transitive property sukkas!

chicken10der 07-20-2007 12:48 PM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...ue#Post11165988

sethypooh21 07-20-2007 02:17 PM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
[ QUOTE ]
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...ue#Post11165988

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NH

ImsaKidd 07-20-2007 02:28 PM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
I earn money from FPPs so they are rakeback.

APerfect10 07-20-2007 02:38 PM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
You're avatar makes complete sense.

Alobar 07-20-2007 03:07 PM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
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I earn money from FPPs so they are rakeback.

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MINETZ 07-20-2007 03:10 PM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
op has downs syndrome.

Bobo Fett 07-20-2007 03:10 PM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
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A 4-year old can see that they are different. The arguments are that they are similar or reasonably close to equivilent.


Everyone's problem is that you started a screaming/angry thread with INCORRECT info. This varies from site to site, yada...lol

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NH.

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action44 07-20-2007 03:28 PM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
please take down your pic of ODEN you are a putz and hes the [censored]..

graarrg 07-20-2007 05:13 PM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
wow, seriously.. OP makes thread to rant about a problem that isn't even a problem, then he does so with incorrect information.

That's like creating your own imaginary fantasy unicorn land and then having someone come along and correct you on your facts about it.

ajml 07-20-2007 05:24 PM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
is this that dude mcvicker??

MicroBob 07-20-2007 06:09 PM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
teddyfbi speculated that it might be.

I didn't think so at first. I'm really not sure anymore.
Definitely seems possible.

yimyammer 07-20-2007 06:24 PM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
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wow, seriously.. OP makes thread to rant about a problem that isn't even a problem, then he does so with incorrect information.

That's like creating your own imaginary fantasy unicorn land and then having someone come along and correct you on your facts about it.

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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

Sandviper23 07-20-2007 06:40 PM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
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[ QUOTE ]
wow, seriously.. OP makes thread to rant about a problem that isn't even a problem, then he does so with incorrect information.

That's like creating your own imaginary fantasy unicorn land and then having someone come along and correct you on your facts about it.

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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

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my two cents... [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

AirmanSpecial 07-20-2007 07:30 PM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
OP for mod.

2461Badugi 07-20-2007 08:30 PM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
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is this that dude mcvicker??

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McVicker + modern, spellchecking browser might equal this guy.

scorer 07-20-2007 09:20 PM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
stick to basketball

bkkdude 07-20-2007 10:02 PM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
is mr olden gonna be the new ugliest guy in nba, after sam casell the current ugliest man.

boohaa12 07-20-2007 11:18 PM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
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Rakeback on most sites is calculated via MGR. Which is total rake taken from the hand divided by the number of players. So you are wrong.

[/ QUOTE ]

[/ QUOTE ]
stop taking greg

Backspin20 07-21-2007 01:25 AM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
how long till you are banned?

ment52 07-21-2007 06:44 AM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
How do you get money from FPP-s people? I only get Chris Moneymaker posters.

Backspin20 07-21-2007 06:46 AM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
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How do you get money from FPP-s people? I only get Chris Moneymaker posters.

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Thats because you need more hit points!
prob could use some extra Manta as well

MyTurn2Raise 07-21-2007 04:39 PM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
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Jesus. Ban!

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FYP. No doubt about this. OP is a muppet.

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agreed

Red Lion 07-21-2007 05:09 PM

Re: FPP\'s are not the same as RAKEBACK!!!!
 
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op has downs syndrome.

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QFT


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