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Specialwon 07-04-2007 05:52 AM

Pot Limit: what are the key differences
 
I'm trying to clear a bonus on Pokerroom, I usually play NL10 but they don't offer it. I've been trying my hand at PL 25 which appears to offer the softest game.

Any key tips for the differences between NL and PL?

Joni 07-04-2007 05:59 AM

Re: Pot Limit: what are the key differences
 
I think the only real difference is that you can't raise enough from the blinds. Otherwise the play is pretty much same.

Roger Mainfield 07-04-2007 06:49 AM

Re: Pot Limit: what are the key differences
 
Ya I find the play postflop extremely similar, sometimes can't overbet shove but nothing major. However preflop is fairly different, especially with deep stacks it can be much better to re-raise with a higher frequency. Due to the fact that you cannot make it too espensive for people to call with mediocre hands pre, it is better to raise a large variety of hands cutting down on their implied odds.

Specialwon 07-04-2007 07:00 AM

Re: Pot Limit: what are the key differences
 
So what would a good raise - reraise range be would you say?

Eggpie 07-04-2007 07:38 AM

Re: Pot Limit: what are the key differences
 
I find i limp raise with AA/KK far more on pot limit tables, as you can't raise as much first in, plus you normally get more callers at pot limit. I don't do it every time, but on aggro tables it is usually the best way to get the pot heads up.

coordi 07-04-2007 07:46 AM

Re: Pot Limit: what are the key differences
 
key differences = PL is softer... or mabey i run like the sun in PL and thats why my NL gets [censored] on.

the_main 07-04-2007 08:44 AM

Re: Pot Limit: what are the key differences
 
make sure not to slowplay in PL

HesseJam 07-04-2007 08:57 AM

Re: Pot Limit: what are the key differences
 
NL is more a flop game = you should decide on the flop if you want to felt a big pot.

PL is more a turn game = you can play more flops without fearing being pushed out of a hand at the flop.

For PL bet sizing is a bit more important (even if the options are limited compared to NL). If you have a monster on the flop you'll have to calculate flop,turn and river bets to max out the potential of your hand.

Since the options are limited your play (unfortunately the opponent's play as well) is a tad more diguised. A Pot sized bet could mean anything...

I concur that PL is softer than NL at PS, at least @ PL25 to PL50 (I haven't played many hands at NL100). The field is smaller and you get to know the regulars fairly quickly.

More drawing to cinch hands and consequently more suck outs. And there is not a lot you could do about it.

Edit: Forgot to confirm what others said: By and large, PL is much much more similar to NL than to Limit. As a matter of fact, NL and PL play quite similar.

HesseJam 07-04-2007 10:43 AM

Re: Pot Limit: what are the key differences
 
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make sure not to slowplay in PL

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qft

exception: you are in the BB and SB completes and you flop a FH 5s over 8s.

Thrahl 07-04-2007 11:28 AM

Re: Pot Limit: what are the key differences
 
You cant put them to a decision for all their chips.

Specialwon 07-04-2007 02:00 PM

Re: Pot Limit: what are the key differences
 
Well, after my experience today, I'll add a couple of points of my own for posterity:

1. C betting is twice as risky. Of 11-12 c-bets (where I had whiffed), only one took the pot down cleanly. I found myself 2-barrelling, which I almost never do, just to avoid surrendering the pot.

2. That game is just suckout city. I got stacked twice today by JTo, once by an unbelievable gutshot on the river to beat my pair of aces, and once by an equally unbelievable float with just overcards. Both times they had bet the flop and called my flop raise. That, coupled with a number of other bad things today, makes me want to never play PL ever again!

Slightly off topic, does anyone else here play Ongame? If so, how do you find it?

HesseJam 07-05-2007 09:12 AM

Re: Pot Limit: what are the key differences
 
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2. That game is just suckout city.

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hahahaha! Told you!

"More drawing to cinch hands and consequently more suck outs. And there is not a lot you could do about it."

QTip 07-05-2007 10:00 AM

Re: Pot Limit: what are the key differences
 
I think the main difference is you have to make sure which game you're playing and how the slide bar is thereby affected, i.e.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $6.10
BB: $15.00
UTG: $25.70
UTG+1: $25.40
MP1: $25.60
MP2: $25.30
MP3: $33.85
Hero (CO): $24.55
BTN: $25.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9 Players)
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, MP3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $24.55</font>

Hero says "oh god, please fold, oh god please fold, etc"

HesseJam 07-05-2007 11:23 AM

Re: Pot Limit: what are the key differences
 
Lol, I know that feeling. Always takes a round for me @ NL to stop driving the slide bar to the extreme right with one swift move.


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