Dare I say it
 

I think the strat forum needs to be split



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I think it needs to be removed

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i support this, atleast for a trial period.

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Yea i've been thinking about this to. I support your motion.

Perhaps under 50 buy in and over?

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Yea i've been thinking about this to. I support your motion.

Perhaps under 50 buy in and over?

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50r+ 200fo+ IMO

Also, >500 for live.

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What about the new stars 109 FO's with 3k start? What about stuper/fuper? Also UB's deep stacked FO's and bounty.

I think theres prolly not enough 200 FO's to not include the 100's/150's.

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what about RPS tournaments

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all thatll do is keep the good advice out of the lower buyin forums

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I was thinking $100 FO+, $55 for rebuys. obv it wouldn't be an even split quantity-wise, but the number of low limit posts is redic compared to the number of higher stakes posts. This sort of reminds me of the debate to split the STTf last year, except I think this is more needed. You have to weed through so much to find the higher stakes threads, more people will feel better posting hands, yada yada...

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all thatll do is keep the good advice out of the lower buyin forums

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think about what you just said, my god

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yes, and all the people who can give the most insight will only visit the higher buyin forum?

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What about the new stars 109 FO's with 3k start? What about stuper/fuper? Also UB's deep stacked FO's and bounty.

I think theres prolly not enough 200 FO's to not include the 100's/150's.

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Since you're the only one who posts hands at this level, we could call it the Bond forum.

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i dont really think it needs to be, but it would be nice. Also $100+ FOs for sure, 55r+ rebuys

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What about the new stars 109 FO's with 3k start? What about stuper/fuper? Also UB's deep stacked FO's and bounty.

I think theres prolly not enough 200 FO's to not include the 100's/150's.

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Since you're the only one who posts hands at this level, we could call it the Bond forum.

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Who do i need to bribe/sleep with/kill to make this a reality?

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yes, and all the people who can give the most insight will only visit the higher buyin forum?

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how many of the $109+ players do you see responding to 4/180 threads? If someone happens to like doing this, splitting the forums wont prevent them from responding. The same people will respond to the same threads, its just a whole lot nicer to have them seperate for means of searching through threads, and it will result in more higher stakes players posting more hands as a lot of players just don't want to hear what the microstakes players have to say, as elitest as that sounds. Do you really think cts would post hands in a general NL forum?

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as you said, splitting the forums would only increase the elitism. pretty unhealthy, as a lot of people around act like helping a micro player will dumb them down

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i support

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as you said, splitting the forums would only increase the elitism. pretty unhealthy, as a lot of people around act like helping a micro player will dumb them down

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the majority of 2+2ers are selfish and here to better their own games. This would include disucssing hands with people who play similar stakes with you. You are sounding more selfish than anyone right now with your argument that the top players wont help you anymore.

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well im sorry if believing that separating the forums wuold hurt the community is selfish.

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Also, BOND FOR MOD OF HSMTT FORUM. (co-modding w/ jurollo obv)

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well im sorry if believing that separating the forums wuold hurt the community is selfish.

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that's not really what you were saying and its not true either.

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Betgo + Fortuna Maximus for co-mod

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i support this, atleast for a trial period.

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I would also be against it as a player who is earnestly trying to build a BR to move up to higher stakes (while not playing professionally). Which is why I try to contribute to the high buy-in questions despite not playing them.

I suppose I would spend about equal time in both forums. However, I would feel that I had to spend an obligatory amount of time in the lower forum b/c I feel like I "owe" people advice there.

I would certainly learn a lot more myself in the higher buy-in forum. I don't know. It's bad enough I have to open two browsers to see MTTs and MTTc. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I'm def in support.

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Of course what you say will happen, thats a good thing though.

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Also, BOND FOR MOD OF HSMTT FORUM. (co-modding w/ jurollo obv)

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*cough*

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I would also be against it as a player who is earnestly trying to build a BR to move up to higher stakes (while not playing professionally). Which is why I try to contribute to the high buy-in questions despite not playing them.

I suppose I would spend about equal time in both forums. However, I would feel that I had to spend an obligatory amount of time in the lower forum b/c I feel like I "owe" people advice there.

I would certainly learn a lot more myself in the higher buy-in forum. I don't know. It's bad enough I have to open two browsers to see MTTs and MTTc. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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thats basically it.

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i think its a good idea as well. 109s plus and 55r plus.

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I'm def in support.

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Of course what you say will happen, thats a good thing though.

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good for you

gives us the shaft though.

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I'm def in support.

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Of course what you say will happen, thats a good thing though.

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good for you

gives us the shaft though.

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meh? what is stopping you from reading HSMTT? Nothing.

How many high stakes players respond to the low stakes posts anyway? like no one.

Also, this has been brought up many times before, but the dynamic of the forum was different in the past. It was generally way better, and the low stakes posts did not dominate. Now, it seems way more needed.

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I would like to see this. I play FR(no jokes please) cash and when they created the FR forum it made it a lot easier to find info relevant to FR.

I'm too lazy to post much in the Strat forum but I do read it and it would be a lot easier if it was split into High and Low. I think the main reason for it is that the strat. is different between a low buy-in and a high buy-in tournament.

I worked my way up from playing micro's to playing higher buy-in tournaments and I've had to adjust my game as I went along. I think having the forum split would make this transition easier.

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One vote for "Yes"

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I'll put in a word with the higher ups and we'll see what happens.

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ya, if you don't want to listen to me, fine, but ansky is always right.

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even if someone even got the urge, it gives them less incentive separating them.

and while theres nothing stopping me from reading, theres plenty stopping of contribution, since, as someone said, "nobody cares about the opinions of micro players"

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when i played ssnl and low stakes mtt i learned a ton from HSNL...

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I'll put in a word with the higher ups and we'll see what happens.

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I still don't think they will vote you in for Mod. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

My earlier comment being said, I completely understand why people want one. I probably would too if I only played 109s+. Especially given the threads today.../sigh/.

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and while theres nothing stopping me from reading, theres plenty stopping of contribution, since, as someone said, "nobody cares about the opinions of micro players"

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you can try all you want to make this into a moral argument, and while your wording makes us sound like douche bags, the reality is it's kinda true.

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I'll put in a word with the higher ups and we'll see what happens.

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I still don't think they will vote you in for Mod. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

My earlier comment being said, I completely understand why people want one. I probably would too if I only played 109s+. Especially given the threads today.../sigh/.

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yea ty markbris for inspiring me to finally make this post

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I'll put in a word with the higher ups and we'll see what happens.

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I still don't think they will vote you in for Mod. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

My earlier comment being said, I completely understand why people want one. I probably would too if I only played 109s+. Especially given the threads today.../sigh/.

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yea ty markbris for inspiring me to finally make this post

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youre right, everyone who first comes into poker should know everything. what was he thinking?

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misclick,

The problem with your argument is that many of the decisions you have in the lower stakes MTTs are fairly basic as you should be playing straight forward poker. As you move up in stakes decisions become more difficult and complex and the thinking you have to go through becomes more advanced.

As people progress in skill and buyin level they will naturally progress from low stakes to the high stakes forum. I don't think this will hurt the low stakes players as you will still be getting good advice from other good thinking players. I don't think the quality of advice will go down much and it may actually improve as more players at the same level of thinking will be group together a little more.

I think the forum split(s) for the cash games have worked out well and it seems fairly obvious from the responses in this thread that there is a need/want for a MTT split.