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Facing a reraise from a tight aggressive player
The player at MP3 seems to be a tight aggressive player as
I did not see him playing much and whenever he enters a pot, he raises. $0.25/$0.50 Limit Hold'em (9 Handed) Pre-flop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. 4 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero calls. I thouht of capping it here, but I figures his reraise means AA-QQ, or AKs. So I just called. Flop:(6.5SB, 2 players) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Hero bets, Button calls. Turn:(4BB, 2 players) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls. Even though he did not show much aggression in flop, he raised in Turn so I just called here even though my hands now improved to 2 pairs. River:(8BB, 2 players) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls. Final pot: 10BB Any comments on all streets are appreciated. Thank you! |
Re: Facing a reraise from a tight aggressive player
If you have enough of a read to put him on QQ+/AKs only, I play this as WA/WB. Betting the flop may let QQ/KK off cheaply while putting in excess money if you're crushed by AA.
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Re: Facing a reraise from a tight aggressive player
How strong was your read on this guy? Number of hands on which you're basing your assumptions? Reason for assigning him such a tiny 3-bet range?
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Re: Facing a reraise from a tight aggressive player
Played this way, I would ghey bet the turn a lot.
You don't think he goes 3-bets w/ TT or JJ or AQ, etc? |
Re: Facing a reraise from a tight aggressive player
How aggressive is this guy? Based on his play, it looks like he has a King in his hand, and based on your read you are either chopping or drawing to 2 outs. Get to the river as cheaply as possible.
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Re: Facing a reraise from a tight aggressive player
I do the same. Turn raise from villain looks odd so maybe he's slowplaying something, or something. I don't know - but it's odd. Hand is too good to fold and raising costs too much if you're behind so I'd call same as this.
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Re: Facing a reraise from a tight aggressive player
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I thouht of capping it here, but I figures his reraise means AA-QQ, or AKs. [/ QUOTE ] If he was a SSH "chart player" that would be true. You need to have a good indication of his tendencies to assign such a narrow range though. |
Re: Facing a reraise from a tight aggressive player
grunch
preflop: CAP! There's no reason to put the button on such a tight range. Lots of folks in that situation are looking to fold the blinds and get heads up with the raiser. flop: fine. turn: reraise. Lead river if he just calls, c/c river if he caps. |
Re: Facing a reraise from a tight aggressive player
I would have capped preflop.
Flop fine Turn I would re-raise. If you are only behind to a set at the moment, and you didnt read him to 3-bet 55 or 66 pre flop then you need to consider if he has AA or KK. With you showing strength I would have expected him to raise the flop bet with Aces so I would doubt he has that. If he had capped the turn I would think he had KK and would check/call the river. If he called the turn re-raise I would put him on a straight draw with QJ or a Ax/Kx and would bet out at the river |
Re: Facing a reraise from a tight aggressive player
Your range is to narrow. A tight aggressive will 3-bet with more than that.
I think the flop is a check-raise as you have a pretty strong hand. The only part of his range that you are behind is 1 combo of AA. I cap if he 3-bets. Given that you didn't check-raise the flop, I check-raise the turn. |
Re: Facing a reraise from a tight aggressive player
I agree with you that my range was too narrow.
I was simply relying on SSHE's pre-flop chart that we should re-raise with AA-QQ, AKs(AK) and the fact that this player did not play much in past 60 hands. |
Re: Facing a reraise from a tight aggressive player
I am the "chart player"... As other forum members pointed out, I think my reads was too narrow. I only played with him for about 60 hands of which he only played a couple of times. So I expected he holds a premium hand.
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Re: Facing a reraise from a tight aggressive player
more bets need to go in here. pf i could cap, and flop or turn i'd get more bets in also.
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Re: Facing a reraise from a tight aggressive player
I think I prematurely assumed he is an aggressive player here. I do not know how aggressive he is. I just thought he has a good hand.
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Re: Facing a reraise from a tight aggressive player
I was basing my reads on 60 hands I played with him in that session. According to PokerTracker, VP$IP is 20.34. PF raise % is 15.25%. He only went to a showdown once when he was on BB with 98o.
To be honest, I do now know why I put him on AA-QQ, AKs. As other people mentioned, I think my reads was too narrow. |
Re: Facing a reraise from a tight aggressive player
The other question is what is his read of you? If he sees you're playing a bit loose then he doesn't necessarily need a premium hand to re-raise.
Being aggressive pre-flop then passive after an Ace hits on the flop indicates KK, QQ, JJ or such. Being aggressive again after the turn K strengthens KK but could also mean A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. I would have slowed down too, but more to see his cards than because I thought I was beat. |
Re: Facing a reraise from a tight aggressive player
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The other question is what is his read of you? If he sees you're playing a bit loose then he doesn't necessarily need a premium hand to re-raise. [/ QUOTE ] This is dangerous thinking, with only a limited read, regardless of what that read tells you. |
Re: Facing a reraise from a tight aggressive player
I play tight. My VP$IP is usually around 14%. I think he knows that I was playing tight in that session. So I (prematurely)assumed he holds a premium hand.
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