Raising the pretty-stack wannabe with crappage
 

No read on UTG, haven't seen him do this before.

20NL on iPoker network

Hero ($34.95)
BB ($13.83)
UTG ($29.47)
Button ($19.4)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $0.47, Button folds, Hero raises to $1.4

Right, so he raised to have exactly 29 in his stack. Smells fishy so I re-pop it to 1.4 with absolutely nothing. Thoughts on this?

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Is it 3-handed?
He might just have OCB or something. Looks weird but I still don't want to play a hand like this oop against a raise. Do you really think he wants to dump some chips so he has a nice stack? He probably intended to raise something like 0.5 and has that kind of holding. I wouldn't attack this just for this peculiarity.

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Is it 3-handed?

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He might just have OCB or something.

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Whats that?

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Looks weird but I still don't want to play a hand like this oop against a raise.

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That's why I'm trying to end it right here.

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Do you really think he wants to dump some chips so he has a nice stack? He probably intended to raise something like 0.5 and has that kind of holding.

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Do I need a new sarcasm detector or what? I really, really hope you're not serious.

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No read on UTG, haven't seen him do this before.

20NL on iPoker network

Hero ($34.95)
BB ($13.83)
UTG ($29.47)
Button ($19.4)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T 6
UTG raises to $0.47, Button folds, Hero raises to $1.4

Right, so he raised to have exactly 29 in his stack. Smells fishy so I re-pop it to 1.4 with absolutely nothing. Thoughts on this?

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Looks fine to me, just be ready to lead pretty much any flop when he calls PF.

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I have no problem w/ it either if you have a read.

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I guess if you have a read. but if your read is that he'll have exactly 29, than i think it's spew. you're building a big pot oop with horrible cards.

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Genz and Paul,

From reading your posts I'm not sure you understood what I meant. Pardon me if you did.

UTG has $29.47 in his stack before the hand and after he raised to exactly $0.47 he has $29 in his stack. That's what cought my attention while playing the hand, because I don't really see him raising 2.35bb for any reason.

I forgot to mention in the OP that UTG had made normal 4bb raises untill this.

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Genz and Paul,

From reading your posts I'm not sure you understood what I meant. Pardon me if you did.

UTG has $29.47 in his stack before the hand and after he raised to exactly $0.47 he has $29 in his stack. That's what cought my attention while playing the hand, because I don't really see him raising 2.35bb for any reason.

I forgot to mention in the OP that UTG had made normal 4bb raises untill this.

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This doesn't seem to be a big enough read to make the play +EV. you need to know at least that he's weak-loose to do this, imo.

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This doesn't seem to be a big enough read to make the play +EV. you need to know at least that he's weak-loose to do this, imo.

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Ok, if not with T6o, would you still loosen your raising range here or adjust in any other way?

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No read on UTG, haven't seen him do this before.

20NL on iPoker network

Hero ($34.95)
BB ($13.83)
UTG ($29.47)
Button ($19.4)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $0.47, Button folds, Hero raises to $1.4

Right, so he raised to have exactly 29 in his stack. Smells fishy so I re-pop it to 1.4 with absolutely nothing. Thoughts on this?

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You don't want them randomly stealing your blind ...but pick better battles than these cards allow you to fight....it's like a vortex filled with nothing but junk and pain for you and who needs that.....

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This doesn't seem to be a big enough read to make the play +EV. you need to know at least that he's weak-loose to do this, imo.

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Ok, if not with T6o, would you still loosen your raising range here or adjust in any other way?

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not really. i'd probably reraise more with my medicore hand that i sometimes fold like small pairs and suited connectors.

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At least you should have re-raised to 1.43 to discourage him from calling.

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Is it 3-handed?

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<font color="blue"> Sorry. I should have looked at the stack sizes. So it's 4-handed.</font>

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He might just have OCB or something.

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Whats that?

<font color="blue"> Obsessive Compulsive Behaviour (a.k.a. OCD).</font>

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Looks weird but I still don't want to play a hand like this oop against a raise.

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That's why I'm trying to end it right here.

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Do you really think he wants to dump some chips so he has a nice stack? He probably intended to raise something like 0.5 and has that kind of holding.

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Do I need a new sarcasm detector or what? I really, really hope you're not serious.

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What? I just said, that I think that it has no specific meaning at all that he raised that weird amount. I would treat it just like a normal raise to something like 0.5. And I wouldn't try to take away a pot from someone who raises like this UTG with a trash hand like yours without a read so I wouldn't do it here as well, just because he sizes his raise a little oddly. I think I have done this before too. I thought it was just fun and the raise-size was confusing. I have no idea how you can put so much weight on the fact that he raises just so much that he has a nice stack, that you think you can take the pot away from him. Maybe he just used the slider and it was a coincidence. That's why I asked you if you truly believe he was chip dumping just to get a nice stack. Because I don't think so and I don't like your play. Especially because you said, he hadn't done anything like this before.

Sorry if I have been unclear in what I said before.

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Genz and Paul,

From reading your posts I'm not sure you understood what I meant. Pardon me if you did.

UTG has $29.47 in his stack before the hand and after he raised to exactly $0.47 he has $29 in his stack. That's what cought my attention while playing the hand, because I don't really see him raising 2.35bb for any reason.

I forgot to mention in the OP that UTG had made normal 4bb raises untill this.

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Ok. This detail is very important, imo. When you think his raise is too small and his odd raise size adds to your conclusion that he is raising light and doesn't really care, i.e. isn't making a "serious" raise, then I like your play better. I still wouldn't do it with trash from the SB though. I rather write "lol. nice raise size" in the chat and watch how he reacts. Maybe you get some usefull information about his state of mind.