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Ansky 12-20-2006 06:06 PM

My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"
 
So, I saw an accountant yesterday. We were going through records and he asks how much I have made in profit in 2006, I say "xxxxx" whatever, and he replies "ok so is that winnings or profit though?"

me: "oh that's profit..."

him: "right ok. But how much did you lose then?" (quoted verbatim)

It was very embarrassing as I started laughing outloud.. in his face.

Imrahil 12-20-2006 06:07 PM

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lol

PITTM 12-20-2006 06:08 PM

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time for a new accountant? hire him as a comedian instead!

rj

danzasmack 12-20-2006 06:08 PM

Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"
 
In america, you can post "xxxxx" you gotta post the number. You crazy canadian!

Evenkeal 12-20-2006 06:08 PM

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started laughing outloud.. in his face.

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I LOL'ed

durkahdurkah 12-20-2006 06:10 PM

Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"
 
Hire a new accountant.

Hire me.

Except I don't live in French Canadia. Or NYC.

[censored] it, don't hire me then.

Triumph36 12-20-2006 06:13 PM

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I'm glad I didn't do that when asked this question....

TheWorstPlayer 12-20-2006 06:14 PM

Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"
 
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So, I saw an accountant yesterday. We were going through records and he asks how much I have made in profit in 2006, I say "xxxxx" whatever,

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Surely you mean "xxx,xxx" whatever...

RikaKazak 12-20-2006 06:14 PM

Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"
 
My CPA is seriously +EV...he's an ex pro gambler [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

He never asks teh ghey questions [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

durkahdurkah 12-20-2006 06:16 PM

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seriously, the fact that he asked you "profit or winnings?" then proceded to ask you how much you lost should be grounds for him to lose his CPA. last i heard, retards can't be certified public accountants.

Ansky 12-20-2006 06:20 PM

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In america, you can post "xxxxx" you gotta post the number. You crazy canadian!

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I'm american, this was in new york.

aflaba 12-20-2006 06:22 PM

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I'm american

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yeah right

T-God 12-20-2006 06:59 PM

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time for a new accountant? hire him as a comedian instead!

rj

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Is this antisemetic? I can't tell anymore...

PartyGirlUK 12-20-2006 07:02 PM

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I don't even get the 'But how much did you lose?' question. I don't know what they are trying to find out.

adanthar 12-20-2006 07:05 PM

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if this is in ny, pm me your accountant when you find a better one?

alphatmw 12-20-2006 07:08 PM

Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"
 
but he needs to know "how much did you lose" for your tax deduction, right?

FastPlaySlow 12-20-2006 07:09 PM

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LOL

pktsfullofhope 12-20-2006 07:14 PM

Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"
 
Accountament

Jigsaws 12-20-2006 07:22 PM

Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"
 
Hmmm. I told a female friend of mine I was considering making poker my "job" (part-time), and I told her how much I had made so far. First line of her email.

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holy! have you lost anything in the poker as well?

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So standard.

PITTM 12-20-2006 07:26 PM

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time for a new accountant? hire him as a comedian instead!

rj

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Is this antisemetic? I can't tell anymore...

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his accountant a) doesnt know what "profit" means. and b) made a funny joke. imo this makes hima better comedian than an accountant.

rj

The Stranger 12-20-2006 07:27 PM

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I don't even get the 'But how much did you lose?' question. I don't know what they are trying to find out.

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Best I can tell, this comes from people who gamble recreationally, and how they think.

Like your neighbor lady might play scratch lottery tickets, and get all excited because she got a ticket that won $50. She has $50 that she didn't have before she bought the ticket, so she "won," without taking into account all the losing tickets she bought.

So if you tell someone who thinks like that about winning $500 or whatever at the B&M, the question "but how much did you lose?" doesn't make sense to you, because if you buy in for $600, and cash out for $1,100 that's how you came up with the "I won $500." But to them gambling is slots or lottery or whatever, so the concept is hard for them to grasp.

The accountant should have gotten this though, especially after asking whether the xxxxx was gross or net.

onoble 12-20-2006 07:32 PM

Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"
 
After you laughed out loud, in his face, what did he say?

cnfuzzd 12-20-2006 07:32 PM

Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"
 
this question arises cause ansky is filling as a professional gambler. Non-professionals must report all winnings, but cant deduct losses (this is done on a session by session basis), whereas im fairly certain that a professionals return would look something like "total wins-total losses" you cant just say "i made xx,xxx"

i could be wrong, but thats how ive always sent my numbers


pjn

shaniac 12-20-2006 07:33 PM

Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"
 
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So, I saw an accountant yesterday. We were going through records and he asks how much I have made in profit in 2006, I say "xxxxx" whatever, and he replies "ok so is that winnings or profit though?"

me: "oh that's profit..."

him: "right ok. But how much did you lose then?" (quoted verbatim)

It was very embarrassing as I started laughing outloud.. in his face.

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You sure he wasn't asking "but how much did you lose (wink wink)" by way of offering an opening for you to mention that craps session late night in Casino du Montreal when you went off for like 80K?

yvesaint 12-20-2006 07:34 PM

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After you laughed out loud, in his face, what did he say?

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MONEY MONEY DREIDEL HANNUKAH SCHMUCK CHALLAH DREIDEL

joker122 12-20-2006 07:38 PM

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but he needs to know "how much did you lose" for your tax deduction, right?

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that's what i thought...and so i didn't find it as LOLable as everyone else.

SomethingClever 12-20-2006 07:40 PM

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this question arises cause ansky is filling as a professional gambler. Non-professionals must report all winnings, but cant deduct losses (this is done on a session by session basis), whereas im fairly certain that a professionals return would look something like "total wins-total losses" you cant just say "i made xx,xxx"

i could be wrong, but thats how ive always sent my numbers


pjn

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You're sort of wrong.

Federally, (and in most states), you don't have to file as a professional gambler to deduct your losses (up to the amount of your wins).

But I think you're right about the reason he was asking the question.

My accountant was like "wtf?" when I showed him my poker profits the first year. He said that I needed to report gross winnings and deduct losses. So he basically asked me the same thing.

Scary_Tiger 12-20-2006 07:50 PM

Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"
 
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this question arises cause ansky is filling as a professional gambler. Non-professionals must report all winnings, but cant deduct losses (this is done on a session by session basis), whereas im fairly certain that a professionals return would look something like "total wins-total losses" you cant just say "i made xx,xxx"

i could be wrong, but thats how ive always sent my numbers


pjn

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Other way around, amateurs have to report gross wins and losses, while professionals just report net.

Joe O 12-20-2006 07:50 PM

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My accountant was like "wtf?" when I showed him my poker profits the first year. He said that I needed to report gross winnings and deduct losses. So he basically asked me the same thing.

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Yeah but then he should be asking "How much did you win?" first.

furyshade 12-20-2006 07:51 PM

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After you laughed out loud, in his face, what did he say?

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MONEY MONEY DREIDEL HANNUKAH SCHMUCK CHALLAH DREIDEL

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i dont even know if yves is actually being racist/antisemitic/sexist/etc. anymore

The Stranger 12-20-2006 08:00 PM

Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"
 
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Other way around, amateurs have to report gross wins and losses, while professionals just report net.

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what's the difference between an amateur and a professional, as far as taxes are concerned, besides what I just quoted?

jsnipes28 12-20-2006 08:02 PM

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Other way around, amateurs have to report gross wins and losses, while professionals just report net.

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what's the difference between an amateur and a professional, as far as taxes are concerned, besides what I just quoted?

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if you do not have another job or the vast majority of your income is derived from gambling then you are a professional

The Stranger 12-20-2006 08:07 PM

Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"
 
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Other way around, amateurs have to report gross wins and losses, while professionals just report net.

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what's the difference between an amateur and a professional, as far as taxes are concerned, besides what I just quoted?

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if you do not have another job or the vast majority of your income is derived from gambling then you are a professional

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say you make $75,000/yr running a business mostly from a PDA, but you also make $35,000/yr playing 8/16 live 5 days a week. Are you a professional gambler? My guess is that you could go either way on your taxes. But my question, is what the pros and cons (if any) are either way.

NajdorfDefense 12-20-2006 08:23 PM

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you would be incorrect with that guess.

Ansky 12-20-2006 09:05 PM

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time for a new accountant? hire him as a comedian instead!

rj

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Is this antisemetic? I can't tell anymore...

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Actually this guy wasn't Jewish...

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aw hell who am i kidding, of course he was lol. </font>

snakekilla88 12-20-2006 09:16 PM

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probally didnt happen but if it did wow hes dumb.

birdytime 12-21-2006 01:15 AM

Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"
 
Was he wearing a wool sweater and sneezing?

Eagles 12-21-2006 01:20 AM

Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"
 
This is obviously going to sound really stupid but I know why people ask how much did you lose? Sometimes it's seriously a good question to ask because people aren't truthful about their winnings because they don't count losses or double count stuff. Now asking how much did you lose is obviously not the best way of asking but it sometimes is an ok questions. BTW I'm aware this is like the worst post ever in BBV.

novel20 12-21-2006 01:21 AM

Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"
 
You said XXXXX. Accountant asked is that winnings or profit, because he wanted to put in the actual number for winnings and use the losses as deductions. Then you said it is profit, and he how much did you lose because the amount you lost + amount in profit = your total winnings. So just 1 more question and got 2 things figured out.

I don't know why you would find this funny, when you can't even understand basic accounting and tax laws.

Python49 12-21-2006 01:24 AM

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You said XXXXX. Accountant asked is that winnings or profit, because he wanted to put in the actual number for winnings and use the losses as deductions. Then you said it is profit, and he how much did you lose because the amount you lost + amount in profit = your total winnings. So just 1 more question and got 2 things figured out.

I don't know why you would find this funny, when you can't even understand basic accounting and tax laws.

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