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Evan Evans 12-15-2006 02:01 AM

Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
I figured out a system of play, after playing 3 million hands of poker and creating about 6 different strategy systems, that yields about 30BB/100 as a winrate at the low stakes levels (25c/50c - $1/2) NL.

Obviously I ain't spilling the beans on this, but I wonder if anyone else (who likely is also not willing to share their secret strategy), is able to sustain a winrate this high.

This is on a sample of 13400 hands, but I am an expert at this game and have played all stakes and varieties to the tune of millions of hands, and I know variance and I can honestly foresee a winrate of at least 16BB/100 sustaining to the 50K hand mark.

Can anyone top this?

Evan Evans

SvensHorse 12-15-2006 02:05 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
get a real samplesize, get pics of your stats, get a graph.

Evan Evans 12-15-2006 02:25 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
I have all that. I'm not looking for people to believe me, and I might put up a graph soon enough for the nay sayers. For every 15 posters saying this is not possible, there might be one guy to step up and say, "Yeah, I've been doing that as well."

Evan Evans

GiantBuddha 12-15-2006 02:32 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
I averaged about 20BB/hr in a .50/$1 home game with terrible opposition over the course of a full year. But against reasonable opposition, this is impossible. 16BB/100 is a pretty lofty goal. Good luck. If you're not going to present the system for discussion, though, doesn't this belong in BBV?

alphatmw 12-15-2006 02:50 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
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This is on a sample of 13400 hands, but I am an expert at this game and have played all stakes and varieties to the tune of millions of hands, and I know variance and I can honestly foresee a winrate of at least 16BB/100 sustaining to the 50K hand mark.

[/ QUOTE ] can anyone top a hypothetical prediction of a winrate after playing only 20% of said number of hands? sure i'll top you. i forsee a 200BB/100 winrate after 50,000 hands. ouch, beat you.

Gonso 12-15-2006 03:10 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
What you're saying is kind of inconsistent...

First, you have a "secret system" that yields 30BB/100 as a sustainable winrate. In the next breath, you're "forseeing" a 16BB/100 winrate. The same with your sample sizes. One minute you've played several systems through millions of hands, suddenly it's only 13.4k hands.

This is a brag post for BBV, at best.

parlient 12-15-2006 03:32 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
guess the best way is to get a graph

Gonso 12-15-2006 03:36 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
It's gotta be true if he has a graph!

alphatmw 12-15-2006 03:42 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
i bet his secret system involves folding KK preflop.

Hielko 12-15-2006 09:25 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
[ QUOTE ]
This is on a sample of 13400 hands, but I am an expert at this game and have played all stakes and varieties to the tune of millions of hands, and I know variance and I can honestly foresee a winrate of at least 16BB/100 sustaining to the 50K hand mark.

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Calculate a 99% confidence interval for the winrate. k tnx

Jay Riall 12-15-2006 09:54 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
I'm pretty sure 15+ptbb/100 is easily attainable for a good player at 100-200nl. At Party anyway... I've sustained 10ptbb/100 over 70k hands 6-tabling and I suck at poker.

TxRedMan 12-15-2006 09:58 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
yes i can top this.

one time at poker camp i learned a startggygyg that made me like $50 per hand at .0000001 .0000002 NL so i m lik teh beststy evar and ur not as good.

TxRedMan 12-15-2006 10:00 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
wait i thought this was a gimmick-


oh noez! pokeer zeus! the reincarnate of johnny moss! plz coach me, plz, i'll pay you so many monies!


dikshit.

Gildwulf 12-15-2006 10:10 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
what i find more impressive is that your last name is just like your first name except you added an S

PhantomGoose 12-15-2006 10:14 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
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what i find more impressive is that your last name is just like your first name except you added an S

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That's really funny, now that you mention it.

durkahdurkah 12-15-2006 10:16 AM

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I figured out a system of play

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You could probably stop reading here and realize how retarded this post is.

dibbs 12-15-2006 10:19 AM

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This is on a sample of 13400 hands, but I am an expert at this game

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lolzzz

Suigin406 12-15-2006 10:29 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
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I figured out a system of play

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You could probably stop reading here and realize how retarded this post is.

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i should have taken this advice...not even sure y i bothered with the rest...

graph OP or elaborate on this "system"??

AbreuTime 12-15-2006 10:30 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
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I have all that. I'm not looking for people to believe me, and I might put up a graph soon enough for the nay sayers. For every 15 posters saying this is not possible, there might be one guy to step up and say, "Yeah, I've been doing that as well."

Evan Evans

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Yeah, I've been doing that as well. No graphs or stats, though, since I'm at another computer.

My system involves overbetting my flush draws, slowplaying full houses, and generally trying to get bad players involved in big pots. And I table select like whoa. There are a few other secrets that are too valuable to reveal at this point in time.

NL__Fool 12-15-2006 10:35 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
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I figured out a system of play, after playing 3 million hands of poker and creating about 6 different strategy systems, that yields about 30BB/100 as a winrate at the low stakes levels (25c/50c - $1/2) NL

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LOL

tomdemaine 12-15-2006 10:40 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
still playing $1NL after 3 million hands = BEAT!

cts 12-15-2006 10:43 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
i am intersted in learning mor e about your program

stinkypete 12-15-2006 10:50 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
do you use winhold'em or have you written your bot from scratch?

ElDuque 12-15-2006 10:53 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
How much to coach me?

Split Suit 12-15-2006 10:57 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
what is ur address so i can Western Union my funds to ur partner?

siccjay 12-15-2006 11:13 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
EVAN EVANS

LAWL

Imrahil 12-15-2006 11:14 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
I play 5000NL and I sustain a winrate of 20PTBB/100 over 200k hands but I'm not going to provide a graph.

samsdmf 12-15-2006 11:18 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
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I play 5000NL and I sustain a winrate of 20PTBB/100 over 200k hands but I'm not going to provide a graph.

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Seriously? If you dont post a graph Im not guna believe you

Suigin406 12-15-2006 11:20 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
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I play 5000NL and I sustain a winrate of 20PTBB/100 over 200k hands but I'm not going to provide a graph.

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Seriously? If you dont post a graph Im not guna believe you

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someone's getting leveled here...prolly me...

banana182 12-15-2006 11:24 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
These brag posts are great, but anyone who is claiming to have higher than a 20PTBB/100 rate over time needs to back it up with graphs/data. That person is either insanely lucky in missing the variance bullets that come from time to time or
doesn't have enough hands (definitely the case for evanevans....13k hands?!??! Pfft.............please)

THEOSU 12-15-2006 11:37 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 

i have an a win rate of infinity.

i will not be providing a graph.

darom03 12-15-2006 11:50 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
You are all so naive!

I have sustained a 30BB/100 over the course of no less than 6000 hands.

And since it can go either way, I am now looking at 60BB/100 or 15BB/100.

So I have proven it IS possible to sustain at least 60BB/100.

Lolz pokernoobaments!

samsdmf 12-15-2006 11:59 AM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
At $200 6max I have a losing streak of around 25bb/100 over 5k hands, If I can do it, anyone can

Little_Luck 12-15-2006 12:16 PM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
3M hands? Post that graph plz.

Let's just run some numbers here.... You play levels .25/.5 to 1/2. Let's assume your average comes to .5/1 levels over the 3M hands. That's 3,000,000/100 times 30 BB/100 times $2 (a BB at .5/1) equals $1,800,000.

Please show us this graph of your 1.8M. You would have this data since you are quoting your BB/100 rate. Even if you only played NL .5, this would be $900,000.

Gary Stevenson 12-15-2006 12:19 PM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
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3M hands? Post that graph plz.

Let's just run some numbers here.... You play levels .25/.5 to 1/2. Let's assume your average comes to .5/1 levels over the 3M hands. That's 3,000,000/100 times 30 BB/100 times $2 (a BB at .5/1) equals $1,800,000.

Please show us this graph of your 1.8M. You would have this data since you are quoting your BB/100 rate. Even if you only played NL .5, this would be $900,000.

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i hate to defend OP here, but he said he's been winning 30BB/100 over his last 13k hands, not over all 3mil. reading is your friend

Badger 12-15-2006 12:28 PM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
Where's eezspearfish or whoever?

tufat23 12-15-2006 12:41 PM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
OP, teach me.

i'm a net loser at NL10.

lifetime graph, sustainable winrate?


http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...ntitled-39.jpg

Spleen 12-15-2006 03:18 PM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/4217/orlyxb7.jpg

kdubom 12-15-2006 03:50 PM

Re: Sustaining a 31BB/100 Winrate at NL - I\'m Doing It
 
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[ QUOTE ]
This is on a sample of 13400 hands, but I am an expert at this game and have played all stakes and varieties to the tune of millions of hands, and I know variance and I can honestly foresee a winrate of at least 16BB/100 sustaining to the 50K hand mark.

[/ QUOTE ]
Calculate a 99% confidence interval for the winrate. k tnx

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LMAO 99%? Being a bit unreasonable here?

Big_Jim 12-15-2006 04:59 PM

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I'm not looking for people to believe me

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That's good, because you're a liar.


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