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MafiaPrince 11-10-2006 04:36 PM

Tigers get Sheffield
 
Tigers have apparently acquired Gary Sheffield from the Yankees for highly touted right-hander Humberto Sanchez and Class A pitchers Kevin Whelan and Anthony Claggett.

Source: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ers/index.html

CharlieDontSurf 11-10-2006 04:38 PM

Re: Tigers get Sheffield
 
3 pitching prospects go to Yankees...any of these guys good?

Hornacek 11-10-2006 04:39 PM

Re: Tigers get Sheffield
 
wtf

Let's hope he's willing to play 1b for the Tigers...

or let's really hope we have that Bondy for Teix deal they've mentioned...

Geez, this is taking trading young for old to a brand new level. Sanchez was our best minor league pitcher, or so I'm told.

THAY3R 11-10-2006 04:44 PM

Re: Tigers get Sheffield
 
OMG THIS IS SO AWESOME

brettbrettr 11-10-2006 04:46 PM

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OMG THIS IS SO AWESOME

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What do you know about Sanchez?

hawk59 11-10-2006 04:46 PM

Re: Tigers get Sheffield
 
Can anyone tell us how good these guys are?

phillydilly 11-10-2006 04:47 PM

Re: Tigers get Sheffield
 
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wtf

Let's hope he's willing to play 1b for the Tigers...

or let's really hope we have that Bondy for Teix deal they've mentioned...

Geez, this is taking trading young for old to a brand new level. Sanchez was our best minor league pitcher, or so I'm told.

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I like it, we are loaded with young pitching, and need some patient hitters

TheRover 11-10-2006 04:50 PM

Re: Tigers get Sheffield
 
just glancing at things. sanchez looks like one of the top 20 or so pitching prospects and the other two look like good reliever prospects.

MafiaPrince 11-10-2006 04:50 PM

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wtf

Let's hope he's willing to play 1b for the Tigers...

or let's really hope we have that Bondy for Teix deal they've mentioned...

Geez, this is taking trading young for old to a brand new level. Sanchez was our best minor league pitcher, or so I'm told.

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I like it, we are loaded with young pitching, and need some patient hitters

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But is one year of Sheffield, who was injured all year, and his horrible attitude worth three prospects?

Hornacek 11-10-2006 04:51 PM

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wtf

Let's hope he's willing to play 1b for the Tigers...

or let's really hope we have that Bondy for Teix deal they've mentioned...

Geez, this is taking trading young for old to a brand new level. Sanchez was our best minor league pitcher, or so I'm told.

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I like it, we are loaded with young pitching, and need some patient hitters

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38-year olds though?

Why not just give up Sanchez for Soriano mid-season? IIRC that's what the Nats were asking for.

brettbrettr 11-10-2006 04:54 PM

Re: Tigers get Sheffield
 
They extended Sheff's deal to 3 years.

samjjones 11-10-2006 04:55 PM

Re: Tigers get Sheffield
 
I saw that deal is contingent on Sheffield agreeing to an extension through '09. Is he going to play 1B? Or are they going to convert Monroe to 1B?

samjjones 11-10-2006 04:56 PM

Re: Tigers get Sheffield
 
I'm not sure Sanchez potential > Linebrink, if that was a legit offer.

THAY3R 11-10-2006 05:04 PM

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OMG THIS IS SO AWESOME

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What do you know about Sanchez?

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Last year in AA and AAA he allowed 3.4 bb/9 and .3 homers/9 while striking out 9/9. He is kind of old for a prospect(23), but its great deal IMO.

Now I hope the Yanks sign JD Drew even though everyone tells me how awful he is.

mosdef 11-10-2006 05:11 PM

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Now I hope the Yanks sign JD Drew even though everyone tells me how awful he is.

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Drew isn't awful, he's just expensive for someone who averages 450-475 PA per season (estimate: I didn't actually check). That means you need to also pay another good player to play the other 100-150 PAs. Drew just isn't worth the headaches.

THAY3R 11-10-2006 05:17 PM

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Now I hope the Yanks sign JD Drew even though everyone tells me how awful he is.

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Drew isn't awful, he's just expensive for someone who averages 450-475 PA per season (estimate: I didn't actually check). That means you need to also pay another good player to play the other 100-150 PAs. Drew just isn't worth the headaches.

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Yankees have Melky(+ $$$) so that shouldn't be a problem if he happens to get hurt.

400 PA's of Drew + Melky >>>>>>> Soriano or Lee or whomever.

Jeremy517 11-10-2006 05:22 PM

Re: Tigers get Sheffield
 
A better thread title would be "Yankees dump Sheffield on Tigers".

I know that the Tigers wanted to trade pitching for hitting, but given the number of teams that need pitching, surely they could have done better than a 38-year-old with a bad attitude?

mosdef 11-10-2006 05:22 PM

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Now I hope the Yanks sign JD Drew even though everyone tells me how awful he is.

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Drew isn't awful, he's just expensive for someone who averages 450-475 PA per season (estimate: I didn't actually check). That means you need to also pay another good player to play the other 100-150 PAs. Drew just isn't worth the headaches.

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Yankees have Melky(+ $$$) so that shouldn't be a problem if he happens to get hurt.

400 PA's of Drew + Melky >>>>>>> Soriano or Lee or whomever.

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Ugh, Melky is not good enough to play for the Yankees.

THAY3R 11-10-2006 05:33 PM

Re: Tigers get Sheffield
 
He's good enough to be a 4th outfielder, especially at minimum salary.

brettbrettr 11-10-2006 05:36 PM

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I know that the Tigers wanted to trade pitching for hitting, but given the number of teams that need pitching, surely they could have done better than a 38-year-old with a bad attitude?

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Sheff's awesome.

Thremp 11-10-2006 05:37 PM

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He's good enough to be a 4th outfielder, especially at minimum salary.

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By far.

Cainy Ball 11-10-2006 05:43 PM

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I saw that deal is contingent on Sheffield agreeing to an extension through '09. Is he going to play 1B? Or are they going to convert Monroe to 1B?

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Leyland says he'll primarily be a DH with sometime in the OF.

Cainy Ball 11-10-2006 05:46 PM

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wtf

Let's hope he's willing to play 1b for the Tigers...

or let's really hope we have that Bondy for Teix deal they've mentioned...

Geez, this is taking trading young for old to a brand new level. Sanchez was our best minor league pitcher, or so I'm told.

[/ QUOTE ]

I like it, we are loaded with young pitching, and need some patient hitters

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38-year olds though?

Why not just give up Sanchez for Soriano mid-season? IIRC that's what the Nats were asking for.

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The Nats wanted also Curtis Maybin, a top OF prospect, which was a deal breaker.

mosdef 11-10-2006 05:49 PM

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He's good enough to be a 4th outfielder, especially at minimum salary.

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By far.

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This is only true if your definition of "4th outfielder" is "someone who gets 1 PA per week". If you sign JD Drew, your fourth OF becomes "someone who may have to play 1/2 a season."

The Yanks should expect to be the class of baseball given their resources. They shouldn't have a plan that includes regular playing time for Melky Cabrera, unless they suddenly decide that they care about money. I'm not trying to slam Melky, but the Yankees should have real stars all over the field.

THAY3R 11-10-2006 05:54 PM

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He's good enough to be a 4th outfielder, especially at minimum salary.

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By far.

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This is only true if your definition of "4th outfielder" is "someone who gets 1 PA per week". If you sign JD Drew, your fourth OF becomes "someone who may have to play 1/2 a season."

The Yanks should expect to be the class of baseball given their resources. They shouldn't have a plan that includes regular playing time for Melky Cabrera, unless they suddenly decide that they care about money. I'm not trying to slam Melky, but the Yankees should have real stars all over the field.

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This is why I said "Melky (+ $$$)".

If Drew happens to be out for a long time, they can easily just go out and get someone. Also keep in mind they already have Abreu Damon Matsui, so to replace Drew, they could just aquire a 1B/DH guy which should be easy to find, and then move Abreu back into the OF.

THAY3R 11-10-2006 05:55 PM

Re: Tigers get Sheffield
 
Also, to limit Drew's injury risk, they could DH him once a week or whatever. I'm sure that could help.

Hornacek 11-10-2006 05:57 PM

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wtf

Let's hope he's willing to play 1b for the Tigers...

or let's really hope we have that Bondy for Teix deal they've mentioned...

Geez, this is taking trading young for old to a brand new level. Sanchez was our best minor league pitcher, or so I'm told.

[/ QUOTE ]

I like it, we are loaded with young pitching, and need some patient hitters

[/ QUOTE ]

38-year olds though?

Why not just give up Sanchez for Soriano mid-season? IIRC that's what the Nats were asking for.

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The Nats wanted also Curtis Maybin, a top OF prospect, which was a deal breaker.

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Isn't it Cameron Maybin?

Thremp 11-10-2006 06:01 PM

Re: Tigers get Sheffield
 
Is Abreu their current first baseman? I'm kinda confused as the current state of the team.

THAY3R 11-10-2006 06:03 PM

Re: Tigers get Sheffield
 
I would say he is currently their horribly fielding Right Fielder.

Hoya 11-10-2006 06:12 PM

Re: Tigers get Sheffield
 
The Yankees made a great set of moves by acquiring Abreu for almost nothing when Sheff was hurt, then getting a top prospect for Sheff after he came back.

Cainy Ball 11-10-2006 06:15 PM

Re: Tigers get Sheffield
 
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wtf

Let's hope he's willing to play 1b for the Tigers...

or let's really hope we have that Bondy for Teix deal they've mentioned...

Geez, this is taking trading young for old to a brand new level. Sanchez was our best minor league pitcher, or so I'm told.

[/ QUOTE ]

I like it, we are loaded with young pitching, and need some patient hitters

[/ QUOTE ]

38-year olds though?

Why not just give up Sanchez for Soriano mid-season? IIRC that's what the Nats were asking for.

[/ QUOTE ]

The Nats wanted also Curtis Maybin, a top OF prospect, which was a deal breaker.

[/ QUOTE ]

Isn't it Cameron Maybin?

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Oops. You're right.

CharlieDontSurf 11-10-2006 06:20 PM

Re: Tigers get Sheffield
 
Sanchez was added to their m40 man roster yet the other two were sent down to minors..is this just to get a look during spring training or do they think he can start next year?

THAY3R 11-10-2006 06:22 PM

Re: Tigers get Sheffield
 
Sanchez is 23 and pitched in AAA last year, so he could probably start in the majors next year but I'm not sure if that is the plan or not.

junglewarfare 11-10-2006 06:26 PM

Re: Tigers get Sheffield
 
[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] cashman

MoreWineII 11-10-2006 06:27 PM

Re: Tigers get Sheffield
 
This seems pretty one-sided.

Boris 11-10-2006 06:29 PM

Re: Tigers get Sheffield
 
Wow that's a sweet move by the Yankees. Isn't Dombrowski supposed to be one of the better GMs?

Thremp 11-10-2006 07:05 PM

Re: Tigers get Sheffield
 
Wouldn't the obvious thing be for the yanks to pick up some sloth to mash at first base and leave abreu in fight field and move Giambi to DH?

hawk59 11-10-2006 07:06 PM

Re: Tigers get Sheffield
 
so the yanks aren't paying any of sheffield's salary this year are they?

MattSuspect 11-10-2006 07:07 PM

Re: Tigers get Sheffield
 
wow. I usually blast cashman, but great trade.

TheHip41 11-10-2006 07:15 PM

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3 pitching prospects go to Yankees...any of these guys good?

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sanchez is good to very good. but I think this is a good deal. We need an everyday DH


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