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BigBlind 10-13-2006 09:22 PM

Update about how things are at Party after the US-players went away
 
I just came of an 8-tabling 7 hr session at Party.

The single biggest difference I noticed after the US-players left, besides that the player base was cut in half, was that there were extremely little trashtalking and bashing going on.

During my 7 hrs (56 table hrs) there was only 1 single occurance when a player went after another one in the chat.

Making 921BB's at the NL tables was just an added bonus. Hopefully the games will stay soft and without constant trash talk. I was a little bit worried about the ban on US players but maybe it will come out alright after all.

fyodor 10-13-2006 09:25 PM

Re: Update about how things are Party after the US-players went away
 
I've just run across only one trash talker today too. Danish guy bashing Israel.

Allday Everyday 10-13-2006 09:33 PM

Re: Update about how things are Party after the US-players went away
 
I two tabled some 5/10 limit there for a few hours. Apart from the lack of players...

Yep, very little trash talk. Quite a change.

I know I have a very small sample size, but do the games seem quite a bit softer?

1p0kerboy 10-13-2006 09:35 PM

Re: Update about how things are at Party after the US-players went awa
 
Screw you non-American players.

YOu all suck!

I'll play you heads up right now.

Donkeeys.

Longy 10-13-2006 09:37 PM

Re: Update about how things are Party after the US-players went away
 
As far as politeness at the tables go you will find that it will be alot better. Ladbrokes which has always been non us always had the best community feel of any site i have been on.

But hell im not in this game for people being nice to me, the mighty dollar is much more important than some american fish questioning my parenthood.

BigBlind 10-13-2006 09:40 PM

Re: Update about how things are Party after the US-players went away
 
The games seemed softer to me aswell although I ran good. I'm basing it on the fact that I was able to stack more players than usual when they called with toppair/weak kicker and similar stuff. Haven't seen those "funny" calls at this frequency in quite some time at Party. The poker boom is back [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img].

Goldstone 10-13-2006 09:45 PM

Re: Update about how things are at Party after the US-players went away
 
Glad you think so. I was about to sit at one of the $5/10NL tables I was on the waiting list for. Until I noticed the average pot was $23....

Allday Everyday 10-13-2006 09:45 PM

Re: Update about how things are Party after the US-players went away
 
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The poker boom is back [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img].

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If the games actually are softer, let's see how long it lasts. I get a feeling they could easily allow U.S. customers back to their site before too long...

MikeRice 10-13-2006 10:15 PM

Re: Update about how things are Party after the US-players went away
 
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As far as politeness at the tables go you will find that it will be alot better. Ladbrokes which has always been non us always had the best community feel of any site i have been on.

But hell im not in this game for people being nice to me, the mighty dollar is much more important than some american fish questioning my parenthood.

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I played at Ladbrokes in the summer during the World Cup it was vicious lol every country for themselves.

Tofu_boy 10-13-2006 10:32 PM

Re: Update about how things are at Party after the US-players went away
 
[ QUOTE ]
I just came of an 8-tabling 7 hr session at Party.

The single biggest difference I noticed after the US-players left, besides that the player base was cut in half, was that there were extremely little trashtalking and bashing going on.

During my 7 hrs (56 table hrs) there was only 1 single occurance when a player went after another one in the chat.

Making 921BB's at the NL tables was just an added bonus. Hopefully the games will stay soft and without constant trash talk. I was a little bit worried about the ban on US players but maybe it will come out alright after all.

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That's good for you. I hope you keep stay there live and die with PP.
don't come to FT and stars please ty.

teddyFBI 10-13-2006 10:35 PM

Re: Update about how things are at Party after the US-players went awa
 
games are softer? no f'in way.
the games positively suck. u americans can still observe tables, right? go check a selection of limit tables -- there were no more than 2 playable tables at 20/40+. granted, i'm uber-neurotic about table selection.

Slowroller13 10-13-2006 10:40 PM

Re: Update about how things are at Party after the US-players went awa
 
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games are softer? no f'in way.
the games positively suck. u americans can still observe tables, right? go check a selection of limit tables -- there were no more than 2 playable tables at 20/40+. granted, i'm uber-neurotic about table selection.

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Maybe not for limit, but for NL it seems softer. Had one idiot call me down with pocket nines on a ten high board when I had KK (thanks for your stack). I had another guy reraise me all in with 88 on a Q high flop when I held KK again (thanks for your stack again).

50% reload bonus in my mailbox also means the Party continues........

Etric 10-13-2006 11:00 PM

Re: Update about how things are at Party after the US-players went awa
 
No one cares anymore.

Party is now irrelevant.

lefty rosen 10-13-2006 11:24 PM

Re: Update about how things are at Party after the US-players went awa
 
Party has all but destroyed the 50NL and 25NL games with their bs jackpot tables. Also introducing the 10Nl and 5NL tables have given smarter losing players better options in terms of losing slower all bad for winning players. I have always stated to people that are hardcore winning or hardcore marginal losing players that Party never wanted winning players, just very marginal winning players and losing players with deep pockets. Now I'm certain of it.... [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Synergistic Explosions 10-13-2006 11:35 PM

Re: Update about how things are at Party after the US-players went awa
 
Hard to believe Party went from 16k players at this time two months ago, to 2800 now.

I'm sure the games will be much better now.

Enjoy!

Ali shmali 10-13-2006 11:36 PM

Re: Update about how things are at Party after the US-players went awa
 
I had recently been playing daytime hours here in the U.S. the tables were softer then they were at night(at least at the lower limits). The boom happened here 3 years ago and most players at least know basic strategy. From what I understand poker is just starting to get big in europe so that probably explains the passive/clueless play. It makes sense that they would introduce the micro's as regular tables. From what I understand europeans play lower stakes on average. Didn't they also lower the minimum deposit and the minimum cash out. The site's becoming more euro-friendly is all.

destroBU 10-13-2006 11:49 PM

Re: Update about how things are at Party after the US-players went awa
 
I had a guy call a huge 100BB+ all-in on the turn with A3o, no pair no draw at a 5/10 table.

Conclusion: the games were softer with Americans !

Black winter day 10-14-2006 12:01 AM

Re: Update about how things are Party after the US-players went away
 
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I've just run across only one trash talker today too. Danish guy bashing Israel.

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I hope you took all his money and made him kill himself.
Yeah "Danish" Ahmed Nasri or whatever...A lot of "Danish" guys like this all over Europe now [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

Harkey 10-14-2006 12:10 AM

Re: Update about how things are at Party after the US-players went awa
 
Party who/what/where? Is there a Party somewhere?

William 10-14-2006 12:14 AM

Re: Update about how things are Party after the US-players went away
 
True, the "danish" Levis and Goldsteins are a minority group now. All over Europe in fact...

ericicecream 10-14-2006 12:25 AM

Re: Update about how things are Party after the US-players went away
 
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I've just run across only one trash talker today too. Danish guy bashing Israel.

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Cause there are only 27 people left who speak English

Oberonn 10-14-2006 09:12 PM

Re: Update about how things are Party after the US-players went away
 
So what is the currency in use on Party now? I would imagine they have no use for chips in US Dollars. Have they switched to the Euro?

StellarWind 10-14-2006 09:35 PM

Re: Update about how things are at Party after the US-players went away
 
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The single biggest difference I noticed after the US-players left, besides that the player base was cut in half, was that there were extremely little trashtalking and bashing going on.

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There could be a shock effect after seeing half the players banned. The remaining Party players may be a little less self-centered and a little more appreciative of what they have.

Let's wait and see how people are behaving in a couple of weeks.

StellarWind 10-14-2006 09:38 PM

Re: Update about how things are Party after the US-players went away
 
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So what is the currency in use on Party now? I would imagine they have no use for chips in US Dollars. Have they switched to the Euro?

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That sounds like a really bad idea. U.S. dollars are the closest thing around to a world currency. It's not like all non-U.S. players live in the EU. Think their vital Canadian customers would warm up to seeing Euros?

BluffTHIS! 10-14-2006 09:41 PM

Re: Update about how things are Party after the US-players went away
 
The Brits won't like euros either, but if party were to change over some or all games to euro ones, then since the euro is worth more, they would be raking more, which is what they want. The euro isn't worth close to twice as much, so players couldn't adjust simply by dropping down 1 stakes level.

Antti 10-14-2006 10:10 PM

Re: Update about how things are Party after the US-players went away
 
The names of other sites are now censored by the profanity filter. "Tilt" = XXXX, "Full" = XXXX (that ought to be interesting), "Stars", = XXXXX, "pokerroom" = a whole row of Xs. I haven't tested everything, just dropped in to the play money games to confirm it.

BluffTHIS! 10-14-2006 10:13 PM

Re: Update about how things are Party after the US-players went away
 
Just put a period in the middle of the words. That worked with swear words. Say "all the americans have gone to Fu.ll Ti.lt and Po.ker St.ars".

Mr_Blonde 10-14-2006 10:18 PM

Re: Update about how things are Party after the US-players went away
 
Yeah you can't even say "ub" in chat now...

How did you manage to 8-table btw? The most it will let me open now is 6.

Arnfinn Madsen 10-14-2006 10:23 PM

Re: Update about how things are Party after the US-players went away
 
I predicted a more polite environment, since I have always had the impression that the whining was 90% made by Americans, and from the little I played today this was actually a remarkable change, no insults etc.. I have always meant that the fact that things take place on the internet is not a valid excuse to be rude, even versus unknowns, some traits in life are more fundamental and more important than being good at poker/making money and most non-Americans seem to agree. Was quite nice actually to have a work environment without the constant whining [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Especially nice to get rid of the wannabe American 2+2-tags who whine everytime I reraise them with i.e 56s and call me a fish/donkey etc. even though it makes them totally misplay postflop so they actually become the fish. Funny though was watching a discussion between 3 fish discussing how sad it was that all the American fishes had left (one of them outfished all of America I would guess [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]).

poker-penguin 10-14-2006 10:33 PM

Re: Update about how things are Party after the US-players went away
 
Yeah a player made a XXXX house today when I got a royal so no BBJ. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Chomp 10-14-2006 10:34 PM

Re: Update about how things are Party after the US-players went away
 
America is a country in deep crisis.

The rest of us should have sympathy on them until they learn to join the human race again.

Bremen 10-14-2006 10:40 PM

Re: Update about how things are Party after the US-players went away
 
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Think their vital Canadian customers would warm up to seeing Euros?

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Probably moreso than AMERICAN dollars.

tehDiceman 10-14-2006 10:51 PM

Re: Update about how things are Party after the US-players went away
 
[ QUOTE ]
I predicted a more polite environment, since I have always had the impression that the whining was 90% made by Americans, and from the little I played today this was actually a remarkable change, no insults etc.. I have always meant that the fact that things take place on the internet is not a valid excuse to be rude, even versus unknowns, some traits in life are more fundamental and more important than being good at poker/making money and most non-Americans seem to agree. Was quite nice actually to have a work environment without the constant whining [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Especially nice to get rid of the wannabe American 2+2-tags who whine everytime I reraise them with i.e 56s and call me a fish/donkey etc. even though it makes them totally misplay postflop so they actually become the fish. Funny though was watching a discussion between 3 fish discussing how sad it was that all the American fishes had left (one of them outfished all of America I would guess [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]).

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i guess my question, why would you call a raise with a 56o anyway? perhaps just american ignorance? i certainly wouldnt call a raise with a 56o. maybe once or twice to throw people off my game and with the hope of pulling some crazy luck, but still, playing that hand on a regular basis doesnt make you a good player IMO.

on a side note, calling someone a fish because they play a turd hand, especially after a raise is something that will not stop, regardless of americans being on those tables or not. fish is not a "bad word" and people are going to be pissed if you win the hand with trip 5's calling huge bets to the river with 56o or 25o in your hand if he has a top pair with top kicker or even two top pair.

Arnfinn Madsen 10-14-2006 10:56 PM

Re: Update about how things are Party after the US-players went away
 
I wrote reraise, and it was sooted [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]. It is very efficient versus uncreative players actually, it [censored] up their whole logic. I don't claim that non-Americans are better than Americans, on the contrary I think it is opposite. Just that, and I think this site is the main reason, a lot of American players seem to think they understand the game, but when you break their "rules" they are completely lost.

tehDiceman 10-14-2006 11:00 PM

Re: Update about how things are Party after the US-players went away
 
[ QUOTE ]
I wrote reraise, and it was sooted [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]. It is very efficient versus uncreative players actually, it [censored] up their whole logic. I don't claim that non-Americans are better than Americans, on the contrary I think it is opposite. Just that, and I think this site is the main reason, a lot of American players seem to think they understand the game, but when you break their "rules" they are completely lost.

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in response to that, i would probly call a 4-5 way pot raise with a 56 suited. have to be a few people in though to get the odds of little money out to big money in. wouldnt call outrageous bets or reraises though.

Arnfinn Madsen 10-14-2006 11:30 PM

Re: Update about how things are Party after the US-players went away
 
Yes, but if you raise with i.e. AJo and when I reraise you I may have AA-JJ, AK or 89s or 76s or 56s does not that make me much harder to play against than if you would know I have AA-JJ or AKs? Nothing revolutionary here, tens of thousands of players get this, but the whiners are typically those who have read a lot and still not get it.

Dormie 10-15-2006 12:10 AM

Re: Update about how things are Party after the US-players went away
 
many many germans playing now

BigBlind 10-15-2006 06:03 AM

Re: Update about how things are Party after the US-players went away
 
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How did you manage to 8-table btw? The most it will let me open now is 6.

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When I posted this I was able to 8-table. Yesterday Party cut the max tables to 6.

ImpulsiveMe 10-15-2006 07:25 AM

Re: Update about how things are at Party after the US-players went away
 
Same experience here, tables are way more civilised now the americans are gone. Bad thing is there are many nice people from the US as well and they are also victimised

ImpulsiveMe 10-15-2006 07:31 AM

Re: Update about how things are at Party after the US-players went awa
 
lot of replies for a subject that is irrelevant


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