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dark_horse 10-10-2006 07:14 PM

Howard Lederer Comment on PSIII
 
On this week's Poker Superstars III in the 4 handed quarterfinals, Mike Matusow is catching cards and hasn't lost a pot within the first 20 minutes of the show. He was quiet during this period, but suddenly he has one of his laughing out loud outbursts after winning a pot, and Chris Rose comments that he's happy he's finally "opening up." Then Howard comments:

"He's enjoying himself. We haven't seen him lose a pot yet tonight. When the cards are going your way you can look like a genius. Certainly Mike's looking that way tonight, which is pretty amazing when you think about it."

darom03 10-10-2006 09:07 PM

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Wow didn't know anybody watched that show anymore...

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Wow didn't know that show was on anymore...

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dark_horse 10-11-2006 12:41 AM

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Didn't know everyone was so down on PSIII. I'll try harder next time.

Kevmath 10-11-2006 12:46 AM

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I watch it from time to time. The problem is the format of the early shows is what most hate about TV poker, with everyone having to push and hope to win their hand. I think the Speed Poker format, minus the annoying stage show, would be a good format for Poker Superstars.

Joe O 10-11-2006 12:41 PM

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It's into the playoffs now, which are usually pretty good.

dark_horse 10-11-2006 03:12 PM

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This wasn't supposed to be a thread on the quality of PSIII!

Jbrochu 10-11-2006 03:51 PM

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Then Howard comments:

"He's enjoying himself. We haven't seen him lose a pot yet tonight. When the cards are going your way you can look like a genius. Certainly Mike's looking that way tonight, which is pretty amazing when you think about it."

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I laughed when I heard him say that...

jjshabado 10-12-2006 01:05 AM

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Yeah I loved the comment. I've seen a couple PSIII episodes where Mike's spewn a lot of extreme hatred towards Gus Hansen. What's up? Nothing worse than seeing a [censored] poker player combined with an annoying whiner. [censored] I hate Mike Matusow.

j555 10-12-2006 10:26 AM

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Mike just does it to talk trash and get in people's heads as he does with everyone. He always jokes around with Gus about being a lucky poker player and that he might not ever win a tournament again. Have you not seen Mike Matusow on tv at all in the past 3 years?

dark_horse 10-12-2006 03:17 PM

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sure, but howard's comment is totally talking trash about mike, and he's not playing with him! he's up in the commentator booth.

TheRealDeal 10-12-2006 04:04 PM

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Hes just messin around. Mikes a good guy and all those guys know it and give him a hard time just cause Mike does it to everyone else.

Suigin406 10-12-2006 04:33 PM

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dunno y, the idea seemed good...i just never really got into it...

MCS 10-12-2006 06:35 PM

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I've seen a couple PSIII episodes where Mike's spewn a lot of extreme hatred towards Gus Hansen. What's up?

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What's up is that Matusow is a douche.

10-12-2006 06:43 PM

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I've seen a couple PSIII episodes where Mike's spewn a lot of extreme hatred towards Gus Hansen. What's up?

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What's up is that Matusow is a douche.

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He certainly came across as that. It was funny though, when as usual, it was him and not the whoever it is who he is berating, who makes the donkey mistake.

Eponymous 10-12-2006 08:53 PM

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Wow didn't know anybody watched that show anymore...

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Really? It's probably my favorite poker show after HSP. It has top pros (no donks that were lucky to make a final table), top notch analysis from Lederer, and no annoying hyperbole like the PPT. You also get to hear what the pros are saying more than most other shows. This year's format is less of an all-in fest than the last two years. There actually is a good amount of flop, turn, and river play this year.

dark_horse 10-12-2006 08:57 PM

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Wow didn't know anybody watched that show anymore...

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Really? It's probably my favorite poker show after HSP. It has top pros (no donks that were lucky to make a final table), top notch analysis from Lederer, and no annoying hyperbole like the PPT. You also get to hear what the pros are saying more than most other shows. This year's format is less of an all-in fest than the last two years. There actually is a good amount of flop, turn, and river play this year.

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Agree 100%. I've really enjoyed this season of Poker Superstars. I also like that there's no crowd and hype. It feels like a private poker game. It's all business.

Tornado69 10-12-2006 10:37 PM

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Who's still left in it and how many people is it down to ?

jjshabado 10-13-2006 12:54 AM

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Mike just does it to talk trash and get in people's heads as he does with everyone. He always jokes around with Gus about being a lucky poker player and that he might not ever win a tournament again. Have you not seen Mike Matusow on tv at all in the past 3 years?

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Yeah, but the stuff I've seen Mike say about Gus in these episodes seems to cross even Mike's general jack ass line into a personal hatred. Even Mike's end interview, he makes a jackass comment about Gus, then says he's just kidding, but ended with a pretty harsh comment. I [censored] hate this guy.

Dangeresque 10-13-2006 04:01 AM

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Matusow is kinda like Stu Ungar but with less talent. Prodigious talent mind you, but not "the best in the world" talent.

It sort of appears that Howard sorta resents Mike his ego, given how Howard's spent all that time denying his ego during play and how it hasn't translated into the same sort of tournament notariety.

jjshabado 10-13-2006 08:53 AM

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Matusow is kinda like Stu Ungar but with less talent. Prodigious talent mind you, but not "the best in the world" talent.

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That may be the worst comparison ever. I'm sure Matusow is talented in the "he's a professional player so he's better than the vast majority of poker players way" but "prodigious talent" is a stretch in my mind.


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It sort of appears that Howard sorta resents Mike his ego, given how Howard's spent all that time denying his ego during play and how it hasn't translated into the same sort of tournament notariety.

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I think you're over-analyzing Howard. My guess is that he dislikes the atmosphere players like Mike create at a poker table. I guess there's no way to know, but I HIGHLY doubt your very specific reason for his comment is accurate.

Howard Lederer is pretty successful and well known. Plus he is respected, something Mike Matusow won't be for a very long time (if ever). I don't think there's much for Howard Lederer to be jealous of in Mike Matusow.

Dirksqjaw 10-16-2006 06:21 PM

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Wow didn't know anybody watched that show anymore...

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Really? It's probably my favorite poker show after HSP. It has top pros (no donks that were lucky to make a final table), top notch analysis from Lederer, and no annoying hyperbole like the PPT. You also get to hear what the pros are saying more than most other shows. This year's format is less of an all-in fest than the last two years. There actually is a good amount of flop, turn, and river play this year.

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Agree 100%. I've really enjoyed this season of Poker Superstars. I also like that there's no crowd and hype. It feels like a private poker game. It's all business.

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PSIII is really the only poker show I watch these days, it and HSP are the only ones in my Tivo list. I enjoy the dynamic the format gives the game, and I was delighted watching Gus knock out the mouth.

I thought it was friendly ribbing until the after interview - was some real vitriol there, made me laugh. What a douche. Saying gus doesn't understand odds.. haha

-Dirk

Off Duty 10-17-2006 01:19 AM

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Mike melted down on Gus tonight big time after Gus moved in on mike in the SB with K9o and Mike called with QQ. Gus spiked a king, Mike called Gus "the luckiest human to walk the face of the earth" and then commented something along the lines of so long as Gus continues to catch cards he'll be a superstar.

Interestingly enough, they are my two favorite players.


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