Top10 college teams (10/4/2006)
 

not who I'd vote for in an AP method
not any ranking equation

from what i've seen with my very own 2 eyes

took my name out of the title as it was too egotistical and tdarko did a better job at carrying the last thread than me anyway


1. Ohio State up 1 as they win a big game on the road rather easily against a #13 team that played well and Auburn really struggled
2. Auburn down 1 from last week--made South Carolina's offense look good
3. LSU up 1--continues to dominate offensively and defensively...very rounded team
4. USC down 1--injury issues and its offense is looking shaky
5. Louisville the same--off-week before putting up 70 on MTSU
6. Michigan up 2--offense remains a balanced show. Defense proved it's not a fluke by shutting down Wisconsin and Minnesota back-2-back. Needs Breaston to step up or Manningham to run more than a go route to move up IMO.
7. Texas down 1--creamed a cream puff. This weekend is a true barometer to see how far they've come since tOSU.
8. Florida down 1--beat Bama as expected. We'll see how Leak handles pressure this week. Injury to Wynn hurts.
9. West Virginia same--off-week, let's see how they do verse Miss St.
10. Tennessee new--demolished a nobody. Has the best win and toughest loss of any of the one loss teams. Get to prove themselves again this weekend

dropped out-Georgia
they just don't have the offense

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Im surprised Tennessee hasnt been in the top 10 polls. They barely lost to Florida which is simply a great team. Erike Ainge looks better about every game.

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Tennessee is getting hammered for their letdown game verse Air Force

They lost a tough game to Florida by 1 and beat a very good Cal team

They crushed Marshall and Memphis

If they can show it on the road this week, everyone will sit up and notice the VOLS again

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I agree with Tenn. in and UGA dropping out since the last thread and is why I am going with the Vols this weekend. Not only has Tennessee looked great every game including a tough loss to a great team (Florida) they also dominated a very good Cal team the first week of the season. They look face-lifted compared to last year.

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GT > UGA holla

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1. tOSU
2. Michigan
3. USC
4. Auburn
5. West Virginia
6. Florida
7. Texas
8. Louisville
9. LSU
10. Tenn

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I think you've got LSU too high. They've dominated cupcakes so far. They are the best 1-loss team though.

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1 OSU (not close)
2 Auburn (best win outside of OSU)
3 Florida (tie with Michigan, but the SEC wins my tiebreakers)
4 Michigan (most consistent team and biggest road win outside of OSU)
5 USC (lots of decent wins, but no big ones)
6 Louisville (so impressed with Petrino)
7 LSU (maybe the most talent, but Les Miles...I don't know.)
8 West Virginia (when does their season start?)
9 Oregon (OU "win" has them playing lights out now. The Cal game could be a classic.)
10 Texas (Still so many questions. I know it was Ohio State, but you're the national champs. 24-7 on your home field?)

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IMHO, Texas has no resume to be in the top 10. They got owned at home (granted, the #1 team) and they haven't beaten ANYBODY worthy.

1. Ohio State
2. Auburn
3. Florida
4. Michigan
5. USC
6. Louisville
7. Oregon
8. West Virginia
9. LSU
10. Tennessee

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1) tOSU
2) Michigan
3) Auburn
4) West Virginia
5) Florida
6) USC
7) Texas
8) Louisville
9) Oregon
10) LSU

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1 OSU (not close)
2 Auburn (best win outside of OSU)
3 Florida (tie with Michigan, but the SEC wins my tiebreakers)
4 Michigan (most consistent team and biggest road win outside of OSU)
5 USC (lots of decent wins, but no big ones)
6 Louisville (so impressed with Petrino)
7 LSU (maybe the most talent, but Les Miles...I don't know.)
8 West Virginia (when does their season start?)
9 Oregon (OU "win" has them playing lights out now. The Cal game could be a classic.)
10 Texas (Still so many questions. I know it was Ohio State, but you're the national champs. 24-7 on your home field?)

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I find this last bit funny. What does "National Champs" have to do with anything? That was last year and this year they aren't anywhere near that team and were up against a team that outclasses them on both sides of the football, they could have played this game on a parking lot in 6th street and tOSU wins--location nor titles can't win you games when you just simply aren't as good as the team you are up against.

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2) Michigan
3) Auburn

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Good thing real TS isn't this stupid.

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there are a handful of analysts putting Michigan at #2 now

some are even very respected, such as Todd McShay

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The WSU Cougar fan here would like it noted that save for one troll who had USC at 6 that our two losses are to teams that are consensus top 5.

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2) Michigan
3) Auburn

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I suppose I could have ranked Auburn lower, as they haven't impressed me at all. But who else could I put as 3?

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The WSU Cougar fan here would like it noted that save for one troll who had USC at 6 that our two losses are to teams that are consensus top 5.

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noted...their offense is solid

I am quite interested in watching the Cougs play some good, but not great teams

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I suppose I could have ranked Auburn lower, as they haven't impressed me at all. But who else could I put as 3?

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Obviously, since you have LSU ranked 10th.

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I think LSU so low is off. I know they've crushed weak opponents & lost to Auburn, but they still have one of the better offenses in the SEC to go with a sick defense.
My Gators need a very good offensive game or a few key turnovers to win this week. Russel vs the UF secondary is very, very scary.

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FWIW- Auburn I thought looked v. good vs the Cougs. Kenny Irons is a beast.

USC also looked good, little more suspect on defense, but they're just a really well coached team and I think that makes up for a lot. Booty looked pretty sharp as well.

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2) Michigan
3) Auburn

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I suppose I could have ranked Auburn lower, as they haven't impressed me at all. But who else could I put as 3?

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Again, lack of quality teams to put at #10. Perhaps Tennessee, its close. Auburn is a solid team, but has done nothing to make me think they are a Championship caliber team.

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2) Michigan
3) Auburn

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I suppose I could have ranked Auburn lower, as they haven't impressed me at all. But who else could I put as 3?

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Again, lack of quality teams to put at #10. Perhaps Tennessee, its close. Auburn is a solid team, but has done nothing to make me think they are a Championship caliber team.

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It amazes me that people thinnk Auburn is really THAT good that it is completely blasphemous to put someone as good as Michigan ahead of them. Auburn barely even beat f'in South Carolina. Michigan has owned every team they have played. Auburn has beaten one quality team (LSU), Michigan beat ND. What is so ridiculous about this? I am in no way saying Auburn isn't good, but gimme a break.

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LSU>>>>>>>>>>>&gt ;>>>>>>>>>>>>& gt;>>>>ND

LSU is probably the best team in the country, but any given Saturday

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LSU>>>>>>>>>>>&gt ;>>>>>>>>>>>>& gt;>>>>ND

LSU is probably the best team in the country, but any given Saturday

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lol well duh...they ARE in the SEC after all, they have the top 13524 teams in the country

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watch the teams play and try to think otherwise

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"Auburn has beaten one quality team (LSU)"

FU.

FUFUFUFU

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.

CO GOUGS!!

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2) Michigan
3) Auburn

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I suppose I could have ranked Auburn lower, as they haven't impressed me at all. But who else could I put as 3?

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Again, lack of quality teams to put at #10. Perhaps Tennessee, its close. Auburn is a solid team, but has done nothing to make me think they are a Championship caliber team.

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Question for everyone rankings teams here: are we doing this more on accomplishment or potential? If a team that has potential has beaten up several weak teams and had nothing remotely challenging yet, would you rank them ahead of another team which had won some tough games? Or are we combining the two: ie, some of what you've done, some of what I think you can do?

The reason here is of course a team like Miami 2001, that no one disputed at the end was the best team, could have played a terrible schedule, and thus had a poor resume, but still been the best team. Still, it'll mostly sort itself out at season's end.

Also, for MyTurn, re: Manningham, he's actually quite versatile. last two weeks have seen several outs, a flag, some crossing routes, etc. We also throw the "long handoff" to him (throw it horizontally to a flanker at the snap) which he does well with. Only thing he can't do is catch quick slants, apparently.

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i have watched the teams play, and you don't have to convince me that Auburn and LSU and a slough of other SEC teams are very good. But I am not quite sure how so many people can unequivocally pronounce that they are undoubtedly better than a team like Michigan or WVU, who has destroyed every obstacle in their path, especially when teams like Auburn barely beat teams like South Carolina.

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i have watched the teams play, and you don't have to convince me that Auburn and LSU and a slough of other SEC teams are very good. But I am not quite sure how so many people can unequivocally pronounce that they are undoubtedly better than a team like Michigan or WVU, who has destroyed every obstacle in their path, especially when teams like Auburn barely beat teams like South Carolina.

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South Carolina is a pretty decent team. They are also 100X better than the [censored] that WVU has played.

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South Carolina is a pretty decent team. They are also 100X better than the [censored] that WVU has played.

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There are only goign to be 2 maybe 3 teams max that will go undefeated so arguring over who is #5 or better right now is dumb. Lets at least get through 4-5 conference games before we start deciding who is better based on who beat who.

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not who I'd vote for in an AP method
not any ranking equation

from what i've seen with my very own 2 eyes

took my name out of the title as it was too egotistical and tdarko did a better job at carrying the last thread than me anyway


1. Ohio State up 1 as they win a big game on the road rather easily against a #13 team that played well and Auburn really struggled
2. Auburn down 1 from last week--made South Carolina's offense look good
3. LSU up 1--continues to dominate offensively and defensively...very rounded team
4. USC down 1--injury issues and its offense is looking shaky
5. Louisville the same--off-week before putting up 70 on MTSU
6. Michigan up 2--offense remains a balanced show. Defense proved it's not a fluke by shutting down Wisconsin and Minnesota back-2-back. Needs Breaston to step up or Manningham to run more than a go route to move up IMO.
7. Texas down 1--creamed a cream puff. This weekend is a true barometer to see how far they've come since tOSU.
8. Florida down 1--beat Bama as expected. We'll see how Leak handles pressure this week. Injury to Wynn hurts.
9. West Virginia same--off-week, let's see how they do verse Miss St.
10. Tennessee new--demolished a nobody. Has the best win and toughest loss of any of the one loss teams. Get to prove themselves again this weekend

dropped out-Georgia
they just don't have the offense

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Sagarin ratings by conference:

1 - Pac-10
2 - Big-10
3 - SEC
4 - Big 12

the computers are probably wrong though, i'm sure 5 of the top 11 teams in the country are from the SEC, and 4 from the other top 3 conferences.

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I for one have no problem with anyone who ranks Michigan ahead of Auburn. WV is a different story.

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not who I'd vote for in an AP method
not any ranking equation

from what i've seen with my very own 2 eyes

took my name out of the title as it was too egotistical and tdarko did a better job at carrying the last thread than me anyway


1. Ohio State up 1 as they win a big game on the road rather easily against a #13 team that played well and Auburn really struggled
2. Auburn down 1 from last week--made South Carolina's offense look good
3. LSU up 1--continues to dominate offensively and defensively...very rounded team
4. USC down 1--injury issues and its offense is looking shaky
5. Louisville the same--off-week before putting up 70 on MTSU
6. Michigan up 2--offense remains a balanced show. Defense proved it's not a fluke by shutting down Wisconsin and Minnesota back-2-back. Needs Breaston to step up or Manningham to run more than a go route to move up IMO.
7. Texas down 1--creamed a cream puff. This weekend is a true barometer to see how far they've come since tOSU.
8. Florida down 1--beat Bama as expected. We'll see how Leak handles pressure this week. Injury to Wynn hurts.
9. West Virginia same--off-week, let's see how they do verse Miss St.
10. Tennessee new--demolished a nobody. Has the best win and toughest loss of any of the one loss teams. Get to prove themselves again this weekend

dropped out-Georgia
they just don't have the offense

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Sagarin ratings by conference:

1 - Pac-10
2 - Big-10
3 - SEC
4 - Big 12

the computers are probably wrong though, i'm sure 5 of the top 11 teams in the country are from the SEC, and 4 from the other top 3 conferences.

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yeah, wtf..?

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I'm sorry OP but if you had Auburn ranked ahead of tOSU at anytime this season then you're a moron.

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Aren't the computers usually much less accurate with a limited data set?

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I'm sorry OP but if you had Auburn ranked ahead of tOSU at anytime this season then you're a moron.

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nope...tOSU is still vulnerable in rush defense verse balanced offenses

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SEC also has some god awful teams too.

Auburn + Florida = Solid Teams
Tennesee + LSU = 2nd tier, but very good teams (LSU loses points for having Les "Choke" Miles

Bama + SC + UGA = 3rd tier, ok teams, can upset someone decent on a good week

Kentucky, Vandy, Ole Miss, MSU, Arkansas = Garbage teams

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I wouldn't label Arkansas garbage. Probaby a tier in between your 3rd & your garbage teams.

Anyways, I think LSU will unfortunately prove they are worthy of your "solid" title this week.

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I don't trust the Sagarin ratings until it says "connected". That beeing said, I think when you take into account performance and strength of schedule, the Pac 10 is going to come out on top. It is cinched by the Pac 10 playing an extra conference game while everyone else loads up on non conference patsies.

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MyTurn,

Perhaps you would be better off rating the teams in tiers instead of a 1-10 style ranking. Judging from your posts, I'm sure you feel the difference between OSU and Auburn is bigger than the difference between Auburn and Michigan. Tiers is the usually the best way to handle this. Another option would be grades.

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I'm sorry OP but if you had Auburn ranked ahead of tOSU at anytime this season then you're a moron.

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nope...tOSU is still vulnerable in rush defense verse balanced offenses

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You must be cum drunk.