***Official Week 3 FF Thread***
 

Here you go, have at it.

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So

Which TE should I pick up for Gates being on bye?

Available:

Gilmore vs Det
Daniels vs Was
Wilcox vs Cle
Fletcher vs Jac
Bruener vs Was

I will be starting Gore vs Phi.

Options for 2 are:

T. Jones vs Min
C. Williams vs Carolina
T. Bell vs NE
Addai vs Jac
Reuben vs Bal

FA:

Ahman vs Det

Williams, Addai and Reuben don't even looking like options here.

WR1-Stallworth vs SF
WR2-R. Williams vs GB

WR3: I have 2 options
Walker vs NE
Bennett vs Mia

FA:
Cotchery vs Buf
Moulds vs Wash
Reed vs NYJ

Free agent strategy
 

This is my first year playing so be gentle. Here's the deal: Our league puts WR's and TE's in the same category, they are interchangable. Each week you start 4 WR/TE in any comination you like. Scoring is 1pt/10yd;6pts/TD. My current WR/TE are:
D. Jackson
D. Branch
Sa. Moss
E. Kennison
K. McCardell
A. Toomer
A. Randle-El
D. Clark
V. Davis

As of right now Coleson and Cotchery are free agents. I'm thinking of picking them up since they would seem to have more potential upside then guys like Randel-El and D. Clark who are fairly well known quantities. On the other hand, I'm afraid two good weeks isn't enough to go on. Right now my starting 4 are DJax, Branch, S Moss, and Toomer and I don't think I'd start Coleson/Cotchery over any of them yet. Our league charges $5 per free agent. I don't mind paying that if it will improve my team, on the other hand I don't want to go making pick-ups on a whim either. Any advice?

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Pick 2 WR's:
R. Williams vs. GB
Evans vs. NYJ
R. Brown @SF

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Williams, Brown

The Eagles are liable to put up 50 this week.

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I disagree. You're biased and so am I. Someone not a Bills/Eagles fan? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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I am somehow 2-0 in this league, but my team is pretty terrible. I have 5 players who have a bye week 3, and 3 49ers. Here is my roster.

Peyton Manning
Lamont Jordan
Frank Gore
Julius Jones
J. Addai
Mike bell
Randy Moss
Owens
Troy Williamson
Antonio Bryant
Lee Evans
Vernon Davis
Jeff Wilkins
Chargers D

Talked to my roomate and he needs WRs bad, so we discussed a trade where I give him Moss and Williamson, and receive Ahman Green and Eddie Kennison, move on it?

Should I also hit the WW for a TE? I didn't get to see the game, but I thought Vernon Davis would start, but he had no receptions and no yards, so he either didn't get looked at or actually didn't play. There aren't very many quality TEs left out there, but the Bears TE that has scored a few TDs is? Should I pick him up, if so who do I drop? I don't like the idea of having a RB/WR/TE from the same team, especially if its the Niners even though they are my team, but it looks like Bryant will get more TDs than Davis and Gore certainly isn't going anywhere.

I've also considered going after Berian for the bears since he has been big the first 2 weeks, but I don't know who to drop, maybe Lee Evans? I don't really know to drop because I don't want to ditch any RBs since I don't have 2 clear guys to go with there, so I've been mixing them up week by week.

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My team sucks. I need a killer week this time around... not quite sure where to go on a couple of these. Obviously with RB I am taking Portis if he plays. Then I'm taking either Taylor or Jones with my second back, not sure which yet.

With WR I am going Boldin and Chambers, not sure who of Chad Jackson and TJ Housh to go with.

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More interesting decision from another league. My team is good, but LT has a bye. Which two RB to go with?

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xorbie,

Definitely Gore. Last one is a tossup between Maroney and Cadillac, though I give the edge to Cadillac because he's not splitting carries. Addai against the Jags seems like an ugly idea.

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I disagree. You're biased and so am I. Someone not a Bills/Eagles fan? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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This has nothing to do with bias. The 49ers are not a good defensive team and they have a poor secondary. The Eagles are a very good passing team. Put two and two together, and the Eagles should score a lot of points, which means Brown is a good start.

I mean look at last year:
Eagles 42, Niners 3
McNabb 342/5TD

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Do you think either team resembles anything of last years teams?

Last year McNabb had TO, they were rolling at the time and had confidence of the SB. This year they have some confidence although that was kinda shot last week during the fluke loss. Stallworth has done a good job at the #1 WR spot so far this year and Westbrook has been strong.

With that being said, the 9ers look a lot better than last year. Bryant is a huge upgrade on the very soft Brandon Lloyd. Gore is lightyears ahead of Barlow. Smith with Turner, is lightyears ahead of where he was last year and Vernon Davis when healthy is a very strong weapon.

Defensively, your right they aren't that strong. They need secondary help and their line is aged while their linebackers other then Lawson aren't exactly young. Parrish is still very good, and Spencer has his moments. The rest of the guys I don't exactly trust yet as a fan.

I expect the Eagles to win. But I expect the 9ers to put up a fight this year instead of the horrid performances they've put out over the last couple of matchups versus the Eagles. Another thing is the 9ers do play much better at home. Hopefully, barring serious injuries to Gore, the team will come around and start winning again. They now have 4 players offensively, who I trust in Bryant-Smith-Gore-Davis. Their line is getting better especially the young guys. They have a long way to go defensively, they need another WR target (I'd LOVE CALVIN JOHNSON from GT), and we need a dominant line on both sides of the ball (Offensively, we have some young good players).

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This year they have some confidence although that was kinda shot last week during the fluke loss.

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You haven't paid much attention to the Andy Reid Eagles, have you?

The Eagles (sans 2005) rarely lose two games in a row. They are excellent at bouncing back. In 2002, the Eagles took a 21-0 lead into halftime against Tennesse and lost for the same reason they lost on Sunday - they let up. Did the loss shatter their confidence? No, they won their next three games by a combined score of 116-37.

Sure, that's 2002, and most of the players are different. But the mindset is the same.

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With that being said, the 9ers look a lot better than last year. Bryant is a huge upgrade on the very soft Brandon Lloyd. Gore is lightyears ahead of Barlow. Smith with Turner, is lightyears ahead of where he was last year and Vernon Davis when healthy is a very strong weapon.

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Um, so? How will that help the Niners stop McNabb? If anything, the Niners will put up points and force the Eagles to throw more - thus scoring more points.

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Defensively, your right they aren't that strong. They need secondary help...

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Ahhhh, so we agree. Ok.

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I expect the Eagles to win....blah blah blah....nothing to do with fantasy....

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I'm not sure where that rant came from, but it has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Look, I'm not bashing the Niners, they are headed in the right direction. But the Eagles are liable to score a ton of points this week for reasons we both agree on, don't take it as a shot against your team.

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Ok folks, should I start Addai or Bernard Berrian for the WR/RB spot? I have Addai now (he's a stud, just wait), but Grossman seems to really like Berrian.

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Addai against jacksonville? LOL.

Berrian.

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I disagree. You're biased and so am I. Someone not a Bills/Eagles fan? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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This has nothing to do with bias. The 49ers are not a good defensive team and they have a poor secondary. The Eagles are a very good passing team. Put two and two together, and the Eagles should score a lot of points, which means Brown is a good start.

I mean look at last year:
Eagles 42, Niners 3
McNabb 342/5TD

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Yeah, I fully expect the Eagles to score more points. But maybe this is where a math-oriented board comes in handy.

Lets say on average, Philly scores 2 more TD's than Buffalo. These TD's could come from Westbrook, Stallworth, Smith, etc. If the Bills score thru the air, there's a really good chance Evans will catch it. This has to count for something, no?

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Yeah, I fully expect the Eagles to score more points. But maybe this is where a math-oriented board comes in handy.

Lets say on average, Philly scores 2 more TD's than Buffalo. These TD's could come from Westbrook, Stallworth, Smith, etc. If the Bills score thru the air, there's a really good chance Evans will catch it. This has to count for something, no?

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Doesn't Evans have like 40 total yards?

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Bills D vs. Jets
or
Steelers D vs. Cinci

Which one do I start?

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Ahman green at detroit or chester taylor vs bears? league rewards carries, and receptions only matter if they have above 5 in the game

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Ahman green at detroit or chester taylor vs bears? league rewards carries, and receptions only matter if they have above 5 in the game

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Green. WTF kind of league rewards carries though?

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Addai against jacksonville? LOL.

Berrian.

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OK, the Jags D was lights out on Monday; does that mean the Bears on the road against a pretty good defense are likely to score more points than the Colts? WTF; seems like a pretty easy start for the RB to me.

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this league gives points for everything...

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Addai against jacksonville? LOL.

Berrian.

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OK, the Jags D was lights out on Monday; does that mean the Bears on the road against a pretty good defense are likely to score more points than the Colts? WTF; seems like a pretty easy start for the RB to me.

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Minnesota has a good defense? We don't know that. The two teams they have played are totally clueless on offense.

Also, the Colts can score points, but that doesn't mean Addai is going to get them. The Colts ground game is pathetic right now. If Pittsburgh coulden't run the ball against Jacksonville, there is NO reason to suspect the Colts will be able to run the ball at all this week.

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All right, with Larry Johnson having a bye this week, I have some tough decisions at RB - I picked up Gado hoping he turns in a big week so I can trade him, but I think the question is really between Jacobs and Bell.

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All right, with Larry Johnson having a bye this week, I have some tough decisions at RB - I picked up Gado hoping he turns in a big week so I can trade him, but I think the question is really between Jacobs and Bell.

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Some of you guys are really stretching the definition of "tough" with these questions.

Bell is likely to get close to three times as many touches as Jacobs is. Jacobs does get his share of goal-line carries, but in most leagues, starting a guy just on the chance he gets a short-yardage TD is a last resort. Bell is the clear choice.

-McGee

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Ahman green at detroit or chester taylor vs bears? league rewards carries, and receptions only matter if they have above 5 in the game

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Green. WTF kind of league rewards carries though?

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Green might get 20 carries, taylor will get 30+. In a league that gives points for carries, I go with chesty.

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All right, with Larry Johnson having a bye this week, I have some tough decisions at RB - I picked up Gado hoping he turns in a big week so I can trade him, but I think the question is really between Jacobs and Bell.

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Some of you guys are really stretching the definition of "tough" with these questions.

Bell is likely to get close to three times as many touches as Jacobs is. Jacobs does get his share of goal-line carries, but in most leagues, starting a guy just on the chance he gets a short-yardage TD is a last resort. Bell is the clear choice.

-McGee

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I really don't think so - given that Jacobs is getting 6 or 7 touches a game, and that Bell is starting against a good defense on the road and also seems to get no goal line carries, I think it's a tougher decision than you give it credit for being.

Also a player has to rush for 120 yards to equal 1 TD in this league.

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Addai against jacksonville? LOL.

Berrian.

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OK, the Jags D was lights out on Monday; does that mean the Bears on the road against a pretty good defense are likely to score more points than the Colts? WTF; seems like a pretty easy start for the RB to me.

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Minnesota has a good defense? We don't know that. The two teams they have played are totally clueless on offense.

Also, the Colts can score points, but that doesn't mean Addai is going to get them. The Colts ground game is pathetic right now. If Pittsburgh coulden't run the ball against Jacksonville, there is NO reason to suspect the Colts will be able to run the ball at all this week.

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My God - the Vikings got into the playoff hunt last year with defense and won nearly all of their games because of it. Jacksonville shut down Pittsburgh, which was impressive, but it doesn't count triple just because it was Monday night and everyone saw it. They did get scored on by Julias Jones a week prior.

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Week 3: Week of the Scrubs (AKA I have LT2 on bye this week and the epitome of "replacements")

Pick 1 of these scrubs to start (1 pt 10 yd ru/rec, 6 pt TD, -2 FL):

Cedric Benson @ MIN
Ron Dayne vs WAS
Travis Henry @ MIA
LenDale White @ MIA

Any comments or insight would be greatly appreciated.

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Help me out. B. Johnson against Bears or pick up Frye against Baltimore. Pretty much screwed either way.

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All right, with Larry Johnson having a bye this week, I have some tough decisions at RB - I picked up Gado hoping he turns in a big week so I can trade him, but I think the question is really between Jacobs and Bell.

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Some of you guys are really stretching the definition of "tough" with these questions.

Bell is likely to get close to three times as many touches as Jacobs is. Jacobs does get his share of goal-line carries, but in most leagues, starting a guy just on the chance he gets a short-yardage TD is a last resort. Bell is the clear choice.

-McGee

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I really don't think so - given that Jacobs is getting 6 or 7 touches a game, and that Bell is starting against a good defense on the road and also seems to get no goal line carries, I think it's a tougher decision than you give it credit for being.

Also a player has to rush for 120 yards to equal 1 TD in this league.

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It's early in the season, but Seattle's D is second against the run (New England is no slouch either, at ninth), and both the Giants and the Broncos are playing on the road. So the advantage there, if any, goes to Bell.

If you think Jacobs is more likely to score on his ~7 touches than Bell on his ~18 touches, then yeah, I guess this makes for a tough decision. But given Bell's demonstrated ability to break long runs and the fact that he'll touch the ball at least twice as often as Jacobs, I don't see how you can make that case.

-McGee

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Help me out. B. Johnson against Bears or pick up Frye against Baltimore. Pretty much screwed either way.

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Johnson, particularly if you'd have to drop a player with any sort of value to add Frye.

-McGee

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Not a week specific question, but a roster question.

In my dynasty league, I've been aiming for youth over the last two years, trading away TO (just before last year started, http://forumimages.footballguys.com/...efault/lol.gif), Corey Dillon, and Tiki Barber (who I picked up in one of those previous trades). The goal being to solidify youthful core now, so that I can more freely use future rookie draft picks to trade for players that might help me "win now."

Anyway, looking for comments on my roster -- what position is weakest (either in short-term production or long-term upside), what players should I try to ditch for value now, what players should I consider "off-limits?"

In a 12 team dynasty league, where rosters can reach as high as 27 players, how do you think I should fare over the next few years?

REGULAR ROSTER
QB Jake Delhomme, CAR
QB Jake Plummer, DEN
QB Chad Pennington, NYJ

RB Brian Westbrook, PHI
RB Carnell Williams, TB
RB Frank Gore, SF
RB Julius Jones, DAL
RB Michael Turner, SD
** RB Domanick Davis, HOU (on IR)

WR Larry Fitzgerald, ARI
WR Darrell Jackson, SEA
WR Joe Horn, NO
WR Drew Bennett, TEN
WR Marques Colston, NO

TE Todd Heap, BAL
TE Jermaine Wiggins, MIN
K Matt Stover, BAL
K Lawrence Tynes, KC


RESERVE ROSTER
QB Aaron Rodgers, GB
QB Sage Rosenfels, HOU
QB Josh McCown, DET
RB Josh Scobey, SEA
WR Derek Hagan, MIA
WR Devery Henderson, NO
WR Brandon Williams, SF

* Note: Players can only be put on the reserve roster by being drafted in the rookie draft. Reserves can't be started unless they're moved up to the regular roster, which means someone would have to be cut.

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In a league that scores 6 pts/TD and 1 pt/20 yds rushing

LT is on bye so my RBs are:

Ronnie Brown vs TEN [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
and
Maroney vs Den
or
Parker vs Cin

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i'd go parker.

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i'd go parker.

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Yep, not close.

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Maroney obv the worst option. I think a case could be made for Brown playing against the Titans though. Should get plenty of carries running clock against a terrible defense.

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Maroney obv the worst option. I think a case could be made for Brown playing against the Titans though. Should get plenty of carries running clock against a terrible defense.

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Brown is obvious; I don't think Matt was asking about him.

Matt -- Parker, easily.

-McGee

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Maroney obv the worst option. I think a case could be made for Brown playing against the Titans though. Should get plenty of carries running clock against a terrible defense.

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He's starting 2 I'm assuming. Brown was the given.

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madtown,

i was assuming the [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] meant you were starting brown and the question was who the backup should be. if you only pick one of those guys, i agree brown might be a better choice.