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From the 5/10 thread


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I was kind of joking with that post. I know why alot of guys dont move up to the 2k game. Its a hell of alot harder and at the begining you generally win less for more stress than you could at the 1knl games. The swings are huge, the opponents are way more aggressive but smart about it, and nothing is ever given away. So why play? Because eventually money isnt the only motivator to play cards, and you want to see how good you can get. There are alot of 1knl players who have a bigger roll than me, but I still choose to move up. Im 20 and go to college, so its not like my monthly nut is very high (2k max). If I make an extra 5k tomorrow, ill be happy but it wont change my life in any real sense. So id rather push myself to be the best that I can and see how I stack up against some of the best players in the world (and yes I think some of the top 2k guys are the amoung the top 100 nl players in the world). I think pretty soon ill be beating the 2knl game for alot more than the 1knl game and ill be 10 times the player I was before.

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I have got the impression that some of the posters on this board want to play as high as possible (boosted, aba and durrr) while others are happy to play at lower limits even though they could probably win (more) if they chose to play higher (fsu, samo). Maybe this is age-related, I don’t know.
I am 23 myself and I am very happy to make a small amount each month at 5/10 and 10/20 and I don‘t really have any ambitions to be a regular at higher stakes.

So I am just curious about what peoples ambitions are when it comes to poker. If you are only in it for the money, if you want to be as good as possible or if you dream about being the one the railbirds talk about.

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I WANT TO WIN MONEYS

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Where do I find the $$$ smiley ?

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Uncle Rico

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You lost me at uncle.

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I play because the game is interesting and engaging for me. This is more true the higher I play as the players are generally more sophisticated so there are more factors to consider at each decision point. Money has never ben that important to me. Obviously, it's nice to know that, due to poker, I can more easily withstand financial catastrophes (say my house burns down or my car gets stolen or whatever) but that is not the driving force.

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I WANT TO WIN MONEYS

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grim, dont you still live at home? Im not trying to be mean when I say that, just bringing up a point. Do you need the money? Obviously not and neither do I and I get its nice to have, but what difference will it make in your life that the amount you currently have doesnt provide for. When I do things, I need it to be challenging or I get bored. Thats probably why i couldnt ever go full time pro, there just inst enough in the game to challenge me long term. However when I do play, I would like to push myself to the limit. I recently sent a pm to etizzle saying I dont feel like "grinding" it out at 1000nl for 600/hr. He pointed out how funny that sounds, but also how true it is.

I just feel the extra utility I get from money at this point is really small since im now really confortable financially, and there is more in poker that id rather focus on that simply maximising earn right now.

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i play just for the $$. I have ambitions of being 'done' playing... @ least regularly- and 'retired*' sometime in the next couple years.

*by retired i mean if im about to go out for lunch and i see a big fish... i go out and eat anyway- instead of waiting 1hr to bust him (obv. right now i pass up many fish b/c of plans w/ friends or w/e) and treating poker like a job- as i do now.

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Im in it for the money and fame baby! Just some months ago i thought i couldnt become the best player in the world but i have a BIG BIG ego and gritted my teeth... Now i fully believe that i can become the best NL player.
I just started crushing 50/100. In the last two weeks i have made over 400K! Life is good right now. site I play at doesnt have a higher table then 50/100 but soon im gonna move and you will all hear about me!

The money isnt the big motivation as the fame tho... although im rich, girls (10 out of 10 girls) is just as hard to get as before (when i was rich). I wanna be famous, real famous and have alot of girls chasing me.

ive discovered that The meaning of life consists of three things. first and foremost to get the prettiest girl on earth (or as close as you can come...).

But to do that you have to be famous so thats the second thing to achive in the quest of fullfilling the meaning of life. also you wanna be famous because you strive after acknowledgement, to have other people admire you.

To become famous you have to be rich so thats the third. when i have achieved these three things i can die a happy man!

Hows that for ambition?

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nezzar, how old/stoned are you?

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nezzar, how old/stoned are you?

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LOL. im 23 (soon). why?

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nezzar, how old/stoned are you?

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LOL. im 23 (soon). why?

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you wax poetic like the philosophers of old

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..What Nezzar said.

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ha ha

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i want to be the very best
Like no one ever was
To catch them is my real test
To train them is my cause
I will travel across the land
Searching far and wide
Teach Pokemon to understand
The power that's inside
Pokemon!
Gotta catch 'em all--
It's you and me
I know it's my destiny
Pokemon!
Ooooh, you're my best friend
In a world we must defend
Pokemon!
Gotta catch 'em all--
Our hearts so true
Our courage will pull us through
You teach me and I'll teach you
Pokemon!
Gotta catch 'em all!
Gotta catch 'em all!

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Im in it for the money and fame baby! Just some months ago i thought i couldnt become the best player in the world but i have a BIG BIG ego and gritted my teeth... Now i fully believe that i can become the best NL player.
I just started crushing 50/100. In the last two weeks i have made over 400K! Life is good right now. site I play at doesnt have a higher table then 50/100 but soon im gonna move and you will all hear about me!

The money isnt the big motivation as the fame tho... although im rich, girls (10 out of 10 girls) is just as hard to get as before (when i was rich). I wanna be famous, real famous and have alot of girls chasing me.

ive discovered that The meaning of life consists of three things. first and foremost to get the prettiest girl on earth (or as close as you can come...).

But to do that you have to be famous so thats the second thing to achive in the quest of fullfilling the meaning of life. also you wanna be famous because you strive after acknowledgement, to have other people admire you.

To become famous you have to be rich so thats the third. when i have achieved these three things i can die a happy man!

Hows that for ambition?

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Hellmuth is that you?

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Maybe I worded the OP a little wrong. Of course almost everybodys main reason to play is the money. But I often see players like durr and grimm play 1/2 or 25/50 when they could probably win more/same (or lose less) at lower limits with less variance (am i wrong here?).

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I have the bankroll for 100-200 200-400 but I wont be playing even 25-50 anymore.

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I have the bankroll for 100-200 200-400 but I wont be playing even 25-50 anymore.

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still think you are "one of the best"?

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I have lots of ambitions. I am lazy as all hell though, it's a wild combination.

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Heimdal, interesting subject matter. I do not have ambitions to be famous or to be the best at highest stakes. My goal is simply to make a lot of money in the next few years, so that I can then spend the rest of my life travelling the world with my wife and kids and/or engaging in any activities or endeavors that I want without having to worry about money.

I suspect that while I do love poker, when I do have the money accumulated that I want, I will play very little and occupy my mind with other less profitable interests.

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Based on my stats I could probably make around the same going back to 5/10 and yes, the swings the would be much lower. However, every time I open a 5/10 table I want to take a nap. I think as much as we some times deny it, we are gamblers.

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I would be quite happy making the money of a 5/10 NL multitabling pro. Not even necessarily one of the top ones. Money is of course part of it. But playing isn't my job (I rarely play more than 2 tables and I haven't learned to multitable well at ALL).

For me the adjustment period for newness and excitement of higher stakes is about 3 winning sessions. After that I want to take another shot and I probably always will. So yeah, money is part of it, skill is part of it, but I don't really care if I'm not as good as all those guys at 25/50 so long as I can flop top set against them every now and then and win more in one pot than I make in a month at my job.

GA here I come baby!

NT

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you can make the most money playing the highest stakes, there is no maximizing earn rates by playing at lower stakes then you should. if you play at lower stakes it can be because of variance/stress and because you're not good enough enough

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My ambition is to the happy as happy as possible. Poker is a part of this equation, so this translates into trying to make as much money money as pssible with as little stress as possible. I have the roll to play higher than i do, but i feel that the extra income i would make would not be enough to warrant the extra stress on my life. Obviously, for most good players, especially since most are quite young, the marginal utility of money goes down after a certain point as there is only so much that you need right now...

I would definitly like to be respected as a good player, but flying under the radar is fine as well. I remember like 8-9 months ago when i was taking shots more aggressivley, ego was a much larger part of the equation. I wanted to be the best, wanted to be respected/envied, and i wanted to play the biggest games i could afford to.

I feel like i have matured in this regard in the last year, now i make decisions based soley on what is best for me on a monetary and overall quality of life basis. My swings will be smaller, i have have a bit less variance, and this in turn allows me to be better and alot more attention for other aspects of my life like my education, social stuff, and just being a kid sometimes. In reality, i think i am very ambitious, but my ambitions are not comprised mostly of poker goals.

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Not really ambitious, no goals to get above 50/1.

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Most of you are still living in a dream world. If Frist manages to attach the anti poker clause to the DOD authorization which as majoritity leader he is quite likely able to manage (see legislation forum), online poker's viability in the US is measured in days or weeks not months or years. So either you live somewhere you can play live for suitible stakes and are capable of doing so or more than 80% likley the online poker landscape changes and yanks the rug out from under online pros.

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It would be great to make a tonne of money in the next few years and never *have* to work again, but I'm going down the work route, so I dont think I will achieve that. I'd like to make enough to realistically not have any money worries, when augmented with a future job that I like, by which I mean

i) Live in a nice place
ii) Be able to provide a quality education for my kids
iii) Always be able to go to a show or to dinner without having to worry about the cost (within reason).

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I feel like i have matured in this regard in the last year, now i make decisions based soley on what is best for me on a monetary and overall quality of life basis.

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Sounds like you have become a vagina...

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Judging from your post in this thread, you are probably quite good at poker and you are probably also a superficial douchebag. I would rather be able to act half my age than make a little more money and have everyone hate me, which is probably the case with someone who feels they needs to make lots of money to meet hot girls or be respected.

Anyway have fun making lots of money, marrying some gold digger, and then ending up with half of it. In the meantime, [censored] you.

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Who cares if Grim lives at home, the money will have an impact on his life. Its not like if he doesnt spend his money now he cant ever spend it.

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I have the bankroll for 100-200 200-400 .

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no u dont.

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Judging from your post in this thread, you are probably quite good at poker and you are probably also a superficial douchebag. I would rather be able to act half my age than make a little more money and have everyone hate me, which is probably the case with someone who feels they needs to make lots of money to meet hot girls or be respected.

Anyway have fun making lots of money, marrying some gold digger, and then ending up with half of it. In the meantime, [censored] you.

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lol. chill man, chill.

Btw, you may be right that im superficial douchebag... I cant help that... But i have come to accept it and learned to live with it, trying to make the best of it [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

also why would i ever ever get married??? Even the prettiest girl on earth gets ugly sooner or later...

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lol. chill man, chill.

Btw, you may be right that im superficial douchebag... I cant help that... But i have come to accept it and learned to live with it, trying to make the best of it [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

also why would i ever ever get married??? Even the prettiest girl on earth gets ugly sooner or later...

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I hate people like you.

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I play becuase it's fun and I'm sick competitive and I want to be the best. The money seems to be there, but getting better is more important to me.

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my goal is to earn 100k this year playing poker...

Being the best is a nice dream, but being able to earn a decent living from poker is more important to me. I'm going to invest in some real coaching and put my work in. I would love to beat the highest limits one day, but making money is my main goal. Poker is a job; not a hobby.

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LIke everyone else i would like to be the best , but that is just a dream, much like a minor leauge baseball player. after the intial drive to obtain greatness, practicality comes into play and you must realize that while you may be better than average, you are most likley not destined for the top. and you still can make a great living doing this. i really belive that greatness is born not made. you can make yourself good, but not great, in my opinion.

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i really belive that greatness is born not made. you can make yourself good, but not great, in my opinion.

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I think poker is one of the few things that are the exeption to this statement.

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Having a wife/kids (or other responsibility) seems to make a big difference, rather than age per se. I am 22 but have been working full time for last 1.5 years. I def want to make money more than strive to be the best.

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i want some recognition on the tournament circuit so i can get freerolls in every 10k event and travel all over the place to play them. cash games meh i dont care too much if people know me as long as i can still make a ton. ambitions for playing as big as it gets online? i duno i played 200-400 on prima once and lost so i obv have to get unstuck there sometime.. but in general im a big bankroll nit. holla